Castle Paradox

[SlightlyPyro]

JSH requested that all the intelligent people of this forum remove themselves from his thread and get their own. So I, being the obliging person that I am, have made such a thread. Actually, I found the deviations from the Character Death thread to be much more interesting than the thread topic itself. All such conversation is encouraged here.

Personally, I find that the mode by which characters die, if such a thing is possible, really depends on the game. I have played a lot of Rogue-likes, and though it makes me livid when a level 35 character with full eternium armour, and a flaming two-handed sword with +27 to hit dies to a room full of greater black dragons, it still makes the game much better, since I'm not as likely to go recklessly charging into such a room. For games like FF, the "once dead, dead forever" is stupid, since so many enemies can cast insta-death spells, etc.

I think permanent death is irritating at the beginning of the game, unless it's some massively powerful guy that was helping you get on your feet. It's really best if it happens in the middle of the game, when most of the plot is starting to roll.
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[Moogle1]

Yay for Roguelikes! I'm frustrated with Nethack right now because I can't get any character past experience level 10. My favorites are elven Wizards and human Monks.

I was actually going to mention Nethack in that other thread. Excellent game and it just wouldn't be the same if you could reload. On the other hand, it's just so sad when your best character in months dies when your wand of death bounces and kills you... (This happened to me when I used it on a shopkeeper whose entire store I had just raided.)
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[SlightlyPyro]

Yah, Nethack rocked. Samurai were the best, once you figured out how to use them correctly. Just kill off that stupid Hachi ASAP . Been a while since I've played it though, between school, OHR, and ADOM. Fun game, if you like Rogue-like games that make you want to hit people 'cause they're so darn hard.

I've thought about it a bit, and really, the whole enemies get blasted to oblivion, but heroes only get KO'd really doesn't seem right. An interesting game would be one where enemies could "revive" (spawn) other "dead" (KO'd) enemies, but that would be difficult due to the fact that the template battle system that comes with OHR doesn't allow you to know when and what enemy has died...or does it? I need to check that out...
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[LeRoy_Leo]

[Uncommon]

I actually did that in the final boss battle of Magnus 17. If one of the bosses died before the other, he'd revive her. It was a one-time thing, so if you wanted to make it so the one enemy would revive the other every time it died, you could give it an "Alone" style attack to self that triggered a spawn of the other enemy. This'll only work for a formation with two just enemies.

You could even make both enemies do this, so you have a boss battle where you have to kill both at the simultaneously. That might be interesting...or annoying, depending on how you plated it.

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