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Bob the Hamster
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 Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Fenrir-Lunaris wrote: | Ubersetzung is going to be released soon, no matter what.
Voxhumana, the release after that should concentrate as much as possible on sound effects, implimentation, and stability. After all, "Vox" means voice, doesn't it? Also, it's been somewhat of a tradition to release one version very shortly after another to clear up any serious and as yet unresolved bugs. I'm hinging my bets on ubersetzung having serious issues with wav and mp3 support on a wide range of computers. |
Actually, extra attention to the new music/sound stuff is exactly why Ubersetzung has taken as long as it has.
And if we have to do an emergency re-release (fingers-crossed no!), it will be Ubersetzung+, not Voxhumana
| Fenrir-Lunaris wrote: | | Yggdrasil - namely, because I'd like this to be the version that gets distributed with Vikings of Midgard. I'd be done long before then of course, but the name is also rather iconic. The Yggdrasil is a great tree of creation that links many worlds - just as the OHRRPGCE links many different games into one powerful creative engine. This version should fix whatever unresolved bugs Xocolatl has. |
Hmm. I was planning on releasing the version of Vikings that I already have with Ubersetzung. I know you are working on more stuff, but I understood that it was "finished" and you were adding bonus stuff. -- but if you want me to wait, I can. it is your call.
BTW, I like the name Yggdrasil.
| Fenrir-Lunaris wrote: | | Zeitgeist - "Spirit of the Times". I have no idea what this version should expand upon. Also, the word just sounds deliciously spiffy. |
Zeitgeist has was suggested before (by you) and I like it at the time, although now it is souring a bit because: (1) I keep hearing news pundits throw it around as a buzzword, especially in regard to the Iraq war, like "...failed to accurately gauge the zeitgeist of Iraqi public opinion...", and (2) because Smashing Pumpkin's reunion album is called "Zeitgeist".
But I am still willing to consider it, since y'all probably don't listen to the same radio stations every morning that I do ;)
| Battleblaze wrote: | | I've had troule follwoing this, so could james or any of the programmers clue me on on the people specifically who helped solve the bugs so I can give them points for National OHR Month? |
The best overview of who has done what is at http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.games.ohrrpgce.devel if you have the patience to dig through it...
| The Mad Cacti wrote: | | Everyone else: get a new nightly build and report every problem you come across. Don't assume that it's been reported. Of course, some have, but we won't mind. Please do this especially if you had problems before. |
Preach it, Brother Cacti! Can I hear an A-men? |
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Ysoft_Entertainment
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| Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I have tracked down bug 430, and found a quick workaround for it. Its a minor bug but still can cause problems later. I think the actual thing that causes this bug isn't loadfromslot command but rather disable load screen feature.
Oh, and Amen Brother James.
Edit: upon further investigation, skip load screen doesn't have anything to do with this bug.
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Moogle1
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| Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Specifically, I changed SG3 around so that the starter map was the one in the screenshot. It started up fine, but attempting to move crashed the game. I think I was using a several-month-old SDL-backend. I retested under native but I really doubt sound is the issue since it was a simple MIDI playing in the background in both cases.
(psst, "prophesizing" isn't a word, unless it's referring to that new Prophesizer that all the prophets use to get in shape.)
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Battleblaze
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hold on I got a big one here.
Game crashes with new versions of HSPEAK
Even with the newest nightly. I'll download the newst HSpeak. compile and import my script with no problem. But when I play it in Game it simply crashes as soon as the game starts (newgame script I suppose).
Recently I've been using old version of Hspeak to compile my scripts and its worked fine. The older verison is from Friday, July 13, 2007.
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Moogle1
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Um, can you post the script? I really doubt it's HSPEAK that's doing the doing.
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Battleblaze
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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I'm almost sure its not the script
For one the script does compile
and I tested with other games, it crashed on vikings of midgaurd
maybe its Game thats screwed up. For instance vikings seems to work with older versions...
Yet at the same time Game works with older versions of Hspeak. confusing I know
But just incase I'm toally wrong heres me script
| Code: | include, plotscr.hsd
define script,begin
1, wakeups, none
2,movemeout of bed,none
end
script,wakeups,begin
show backdrop (0)
wait (1)
fade screen out
wait (02)
put camera (0,0)
show map
wait (50)
Fade screen in
show textbox (1)
wait for textbox
pan camera (south,19,)
wait (30)
show textbox (2)
wait for textbox
wait for camera
Show textbox (3)
pan camera (south,19,)
wait (50)
Show textbox (4)
wait for textbox
show textbox (5)
wait for camera
wait for textbox
show textbox (6)
wait (20)
pan camera (south,19,)
wait (10)
wait for textbox
show textbox (7)
wait for textbox
show textbox (8)
wait (30)
advance textbox
wait for camera
wait (30)
show textbox (9)
wait (10)
pan camera (south,19)
wait (20)
wait for textbox
show textbox (10)
wait for textbox
fade screen out
wait (30)
camera follows hero (me)
wait (5)
show textbox (11)
use door (0)
fade screen in
wait (50)
wait (30)
walk hero (me,south,1)
wait (1)
walk hero (me,right,2)
wait (10)
resume player
end
script,movemeout of bed, begin
suspend player
suspend NPC walls
suspend obstruction
walk NPC (0,east,1)
wait (01)
walk NPC (0,south,2)
wait for NPC
walk NPC (0,west,3)
wait for NPC
walk NPC (0,north,1)
wait for NPC
walk NPC (0,west,2)
wait for NPC
wait (10)
set NPC direction (0,east)
wait (35)
set hero direction (me,west)
wait (10)
walk NPC (0,west,3)
wait for NPC
walk hero (me,right,1)
wait (130)
show text box (27)
wait for textbox
show textbox (28)
wait for textbox
show textbox (29)
wait (45)
walk hero (me,left,4)
wait (30)
walk NPC (0,right,2)
wait for textbox
show textbox (30)
wait for textbox
show textbox (31)
wait for textbox
resume player
resume NPC walls
resume player
end |
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Moogle1
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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See James' email. It is neither the script nor HSPEAK, but a one-off bug James introduced into the latest nightly that has already been fixed.
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Battleblaze
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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so is if I download it today or tommorow will the problem be fixed. Because I got the error today.
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Moogle1
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Tomorrow. That's why it's called a "nightly" and not a "daily."
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: |
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I still get that bug. Annoying!
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Bob the Hamster
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: |
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I declare the bug of the week to be '' . bug_title('470') . ''
Please report any crashes you find while playing Missing (or any crash in any game for that matter) |
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msw188
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:37 am Post subject: |
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I was reading some of the stuff you guys posted about this bug, and the sound effects theory is questionable. The original poster (Meatballsub) said he also experienced crashes during plotscripts in my game, and my game has precisely zero sound effects. Then again, I guess we could have two totally separate bugs...
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msw188
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Just a total guess, but last time that my game had scripting problems, it came out of SVN 1436. Maybe this is also related, or maybe it is comes from SVN 1434? Those seem to be the biggest script-related changes of late (besides the backed-out bug 430 fix). I'll post the while loop where I believe the problem in my game was here (warning, not indented particularly well:
| Code: | while(checktag(tag:KilledEneram)==false),do
begin
createnpc(8,6,4,north)
getnpctoY(8,2)
walknpctoX(8,13)
createnpc(9,20,5)
getnpctoY(9,3)
createnpc(7,6,4)
walknpctoX(9,14)
createnpc(10,13,9)
walknpc(10,north,5)
getnpctoX(8,13)
setnpcdirection(8,south)
if(npcreference(8)<>0),then
begin
EneramKill(8)
end
createnpc(7,13,9)
getnpctoX(9,14)
if(npcreference(9)<>0),then
begin
EneramKill(9)
end
createnpc(7,10,8)
getnpctoY(10,4)
if(npcreference(10)<>0),then
begin
EneramKill(10)
end
if(checktag(tag:KilledEneram)==false),then,begin
createnpc(8,17,8,north)
createnpc(9,6,4,north)
createnpc(7,20,5)
getnpctoY(8,3)
walknpctoX(8,14)
getnpctoY(9,3)
walknpctoX(8,14)
walknpctoX(9,13)
createnpc(10,10,8,north)
getnpctoX(8,14)
if(npcreference(8)<>0),then
begin
EneramKill(8)
end
walknpctoY(10,3)
getnpctoX(9,13)
createnpc(7,13,9)
setnpcdirection(9,south)
if(npcreference(9)<>0),then
begin
EneramKill(9)
end
createnpc(11,20,5)
walknpctoY(11,2)
getnpctoY(10,3)
walknpctoX(10,12)
walknpctoX(11,13)
createnpc(7,17,8)
getnpctoX(10,12)
if(npcreference(10)<>0),then
begin
EneramKill(10)
end
getnpctoX(11,13)
setnpcdirection(11,south)
if(npcreference(11)<>0),then
begin
EneramKill(11)
end
end #for and if within the while loop
end #end of while loop |
Here is the code for EneramKill; basically he kills the NPC in question for the first five times that this is called (global2 keeps track), but after that he is killed, and the script causes the end of this section of the game:
| Code: | script,EneramKill,who,begin
if(checktag(tag:KilledEneram)==false),then #else just get rid of the npc; this is used once war5 is complete
begin
suspendplayer
suspendnpcs
variable(i)
if(global2<<5),then
begin
showtextbox(1010)
for(i,8,2,-2),do
begin
alternpc(who,npcstat:picture,43)
wait(i)
alternpc(who,npcstat:picture,14)
wait(i--1)
end
destroynpc(who)
increment(global2)
resumeplayer
end
else
begin
showtextbox(1012)
wait(12)
settag(tag:KilledEneram,true)
for(i,8,2,-2),do
begin
destroynpc(0)
wait(i)
createnpc(0,13,3)
wait(i--1)
end
destroynpc(0)
waitfortextbox
stopsong
fadescreenout
teleporttomap(0,0,0)
focuscamera(94,64,40)
createnpc(0,96,58)
waitforcamera
fadescreenin
walknpc(0,south,1)
waitfornpc(0)
alternpc(0,npcstat:movespeed,2)
walknpc(0,south,1)
waitfornpc(0)
alternpc(0,npcstat:movespeed,1)
walknpc(0,south,1)
waitfornpc(0)
wait(8)
createnpc(4,96,62)
wait(16)
fadescreenout
camerafollowshero(me)
for(i,9,12),do
begin
swapouthero(herobyslot(i--9))
swapbyposition((i--9),findhero(readglobal(i)))
end
teleporttomap(44,31,0)
setherodirection(me,south)
for(i,0,5),do
begin
destroynpc(i)
end
createnpc(14,14,3)
createnpc(13,14,3)
camerafollowsnpc(13)
waitforcamera
fadescreenin
wait(12)
setnpcdirection(13,east)
pancamera(east,17)
waitforcamera
walkhero(me,south,3)
showtextbox(1015)
waitfortextbox
camerafollowshero(me)
walknpcall(15,south,4)
walknpcall(19,north,7)
wait(4)
for(i,16,18),do
begin
walknpcall(i,south,4)
wait(4)
end
walkhero(me,west,4)
waitforhero(me)
createnpc(20,23,5)
writemapblock(23,5,0)
walknpc(20,east,4)
walkhero(me,south,1)
waitfornpc(20)
setnpcdirection(20,north)
showtextbox(1016)
waitfortextbox
fightformation(163)
increment(global3)
writemapblock(23,5,0)
destroynpc(20)
walkhero(me,south,1)
waitforhero(me)
walkhero(me,west,4)
waitforhero(me)
setherodirection(me,north)
showtextbox(1017)
waitfortextbox
fightformation(167)
increment(global3)
writemapblock(23,5,0)
writemapblock(23,4,0)
createnpc(4,23,3)
writemapblock(23,3,0)
writepassblock(23,3,0)
walknpc(4,east,1)
waitfornpc(4)
setnpcdirection(4,west)
walkhero(me,north,2)
waitforhero(me)
walkherotoX(me,16)
wait(12)
walknpc(13,east,1)
setnpcdirection(14,east)
waitforhero(me)
showtextbox(1018)
waitfortextbox
fadescreenout
global1:=0
global2:=0
teleporttomap(40,7,7)
setherodirection(me,south)
suspendobstruction
createnpc(8,0,0)
createnpc(9,0,1)
createnpc(10,0,2)
createnpc(11,0,3)
wait(1)
end
resumenpcs
end
else
begin
destroynpc(who)
end
end |
Finally, here is the script war5battle, which is called by lots of NPCs all running around; in some circumstances, the player may trigger two of this at once:
| Code: | script,war5battle,unused,who,begin
fightformation(162+random(0,1))
increment(global3)
destroynpc(who)
writemapblock(16,8,0)
writepassblock(16,8,0)
if(global1>=1),then
begin
writemapblock(7,4,0)
writepassblock(7,4,0)
if(global1>=2),then
begin
writemapblock(11,7,0)
writepassblock(11,7,0)
if(global1>=3),then
begin
writemapblock(21,4,0)
writepassblock(21,4,0)
if(global1>=4),then
begin
writemapblock(15,8,0)
writepassblock(15,8,0)
if(global1>=5),then
begin
writemapblock(10,7,0)
writepassblock(10,7,0)
if(global1>=6),then
begin
writemapblock(20,4,0)
writepassblock(20,4,0)
if(global1>=7),then
begin
writemapblock(13,8,0)
writemapblock(17,7,0)
writemapblock(6,3,0)
writepassblock(13,8,0)
writepassblock(17,7,0)
writepassblock(6,3,0)
end
end
end
end
end
end
end
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Okay, that was long. I hope that this, along with maybe the Missing script in question, can be used to narrow down what kinds of commands are causing problems...
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Bob the Hamster
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