Castle Paradox

Minnek · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:45 pm Post subject:

~~YES IT IS!~~ Well, in my game it is, at least....sorta. It leads into the next game, is what it is. (Yes, I DID plan everything out, from character pasts to world history. I'm just not telling.) Still sticking with my standing though. No big deal.
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RedMaverickZero · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 4:37 pm Post subject:

Clearly since this message board is bullying me and Setu I guess I should post my own two cents in here. First of all, Mr.Triangle's Sh**ty Adventure 5 was made to be different from the pushover games it preceded. I wanted it to actually have a story worth telling and bosses worth fighting. Now, CN was false in some respects. I did in fact beat the final boss of it. But it wasn't until later on after I told him I didn't. I wanted Mr.Triangle to go out with a bang and a final boss people would remember and feel proud to have beaten. Personally, I felt a great deal of pride when I beat the game. But I don't deny that I lost a good 10 times before I actually leveled up and bought some items. But I entirely disagree with CN on the review. I'm almost for sure not every review on CP was made when the game was fully beaten. But for more reasons than this message board I have been working on the Expansion to Mr.Triangle's Sh**ty Adventure 5. With a much easier final boss. To make everyone happy. And not to mention more sidequests. And I read from someone that you don't need to beat a game fully to review it. If you can play a game a good 90% through then you've done enough. You've gotten all the neccessary components of the review to be able to make one. Because the storyline, battles, and character layouts are main points of the game. Once those are established in a full nature you should be able to review a game. Those are my thoughts... And wow, this is my longest post yet... hehe.
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Shadowiii · **It's been real.** Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 2460

...I agree with you.

BUT

Setu should have made mention in his review that he hadn't finished the game/beaten the boss. As JSH said, some games dont' need finishing to know the final score. If a game has an impossible boss or a bug that won't let you play it (think Billy the Gnome 2), then you might still be able to review it.

However, I think instead of reviewing a game, a potential reviewer when playing a game should should contact the author FIRST before reviewing the game. No author wants a game reviewed because of a silly little bug that they missed in playtesting.

Basically it comes down to that you have to take responsibility as a reviewer. Yeah, I know, it is easy to write a bunch of reviews (or not, depending on your opinion), and easy to load a game, and write a review saying "this game sucks and is buggy!" But the realy purpose of the reviews is to

1. Inform the game author of things you liked and things you wanted to be improved upon.
2. Give the community a general idea of what to expect if they download this game, and if it is worth their time.

So, as a reviewer, you need to take responsibility. For example, I had a review for RMZ's Halloween Quest a while back, but one of the major let-backs of this game was the over-frequency of the random battles. I COULD have posted a review with a potentially lower grade, claiming that the game had an issue (the random battle issue has already been fixed, by the way) and thus tainting people's perceptions of it, but instead I talked to RMZ and informed him of this, and he fixed it.

So...yeah. If you are going to review, do so responsibally. I really want the ability to edit already posted reviews, simply because my Blackend review needs some serious editing, and a few more need beefing up. Plus, reviews are only really "valid" until the next update...responsable reviewers should update their reviews when the game is updated...I mean, Minnek could finish Partisan Legacy I and make it really good (B+ level game or whatever) but I'd still have my C- review on it.

So...yeah. That is my 2 cents. *reads over post* ok it is more like two DOLLERS but you get the picture.

Smokin'

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Chaos Nyte · Reviewer Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 511 Location: Hirakata

Couldn't have said it better myself Shadowii. As a reviewer, you have a duty to the game's creator, and the community that reads it. If review writing is silly or pointless for you, don't do it, because it hurts everyone involved.

Flamer · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 6:45 pm Post subject:

yeah... editing reviews would be very helpful.
what would i know about reviews though... never get the time (or patience) to go through an entire and think of all the good and bad things that has happened.

personally, i think it'll be better for the reviewer to go through the whole game (or at least inform people of the incompletion) so people can get the full feel of how you felt about the game.

*shrugs* what do i know, i haven't reviewed before *shrugs*
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Uncommon · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:00 pm Post subject:

Not much to say that hasn't been said... I personally don't think the review should be deleted, but a notice added at the bottom and Setu warned.

But really, I want to beg for an "edit review" feature. I have a supplement to my Genesis review that needs writing/adding.

Rinku · Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 690

here is my unpopular meditations on what should be done:

1) setu banned, review deleted

2) that game removed from the game list because of its name, and all other games that use that word (including its 4 prequels, if they are up) also removed

3) whoever made that game series, banned

4) good thing i'm not administrator, yes?

RedMaverickZero · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 7:02 am Post subject:

If you were an Adminsistrator then you would be abusing your power. As I heard from IM the administrators are here to keep the peace, not stir it up. And right now, I think the administrators are out to attack me for whatever reason. Personally I think this whole shit is fucking immature and you all are blowing this completely out of preportion! As I also read somewhere, it was fun in 3rd grade but we need to act our age now. Besides, not every game on this site is perfect. There are some games just as mean and vulgur as the Mr.Triangle saga. And as I have put in every profile for the game, they are mature content. Meaning, if you're not mature enough to read a dirty joke then don't bother playing it. You guys are singleing out Setu and I for something small and stupid. And I don't care what the hell happens right now, because this is an abusement of power and arrogance is really pissing me off. I'm starting to agree with Eggie when he said,"Lover of CP, hater of CP's people." Because right now, you guys seem to have it out for me. And this is childish and immature. So go take the pacifier out of your mouth and act your age for once. Bullying people was way back in Elementary school. Even middle school kids have more maturity than that!
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Uncommon · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 7:16 am Post subject:

RMZ, calm down. No one is attacking you here (except maybe Rinku, and he's just a general jerk). The only problem that we have stated with your game is the final boss, and you have already stated that you are working on that. CN will take care of this review thing, and the issue will be resolved.

Just know that we are not trying to attack you here.

RedMaverickZero · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 7:37 am Post subject:

Well everyone has a weird way of showing it. And I don't think there is anything wrong with the review. I wouldn't care if it wasn't an A-. The point being that he got all the way to final boss was enough. He played the rest of the game which merits the right to be able to review it.
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Komera · Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 711

Shadowiii · **It's been real.** Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 2460

RMZ - Yeah, he had the right to review it, but he should have at least mentioned that the final boss was unbeatable, that is all we are asking for.

As for Rinku...I can't honestly say that your intentions have the community as a whole in mind (and when I speak of community, I mean the OHR community not CP). People have a right to be creative, in whatever ways they wish with their games, just like you have as much right to put heroism in your games if desired. We won't ban your games because we disagree with your principles.
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Komera · Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 711

you know, i really should point out that h&r's game was made before they created heroism so whatever hidden meaning you're looking for is just not there.
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Hunter Green · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:14 am Post subject:

Shadowiii · **It's been real.** Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 2460

Komera- That is why I removed it shortly after I posted it. (actually the real reason was because I was being a jerk and it is not my style...but eh)

I have nothing against Rinku, but I do have something against not allowing someone to make games and distribute them because of personal preference.
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