Castle Paradox

Bob the Hamster · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:06 am Post subject:

Lets talk about what it would take to make this an actual built-in feature.

You can already choose which stat will be the target stat, the base damage stat, the base defense stat. What if you could also choose an optional additional consumable stat. This could augment the existing MP cost.

It would also be necessary to make it displayable when it lists how much a spell costs to cast.

It would also be necessary to be able to mark other stats as not being restored after battle, just like HP and MP.

Does that sound like a reasonable plan?

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Bob the Hamster · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:29 am Post subject:

Newbie_Power · Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 1762

Any chance of a flat damage modifier being implemented as a built-in feature, or is that pointless since chained attacks can do the same thing?
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msw188 · Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 1041

How many possible costs do we want an attack to be able to incur at once? If we allow every possible stat as a cost, then all that needs done in the editor is expanding the cost screen. But in game, displaying multiple costs could be very confusing.

Allowing stats to keep their values outside of battle sounds like a pretty sticky area. What happens on level-ups? And what about people who are using stat-altering scripts outside of battle currently? How will having a meaningful difference between "maximum stat" and "current stat" affect these things?

I don't see the flat damage modifier as a high priority kind of thing, since it is entirely doable with the system as of now, with absolutely no restrictions that I can think of (unless you count only having 32000 some attacks available). This new feature would be nice because, as of now, there is no way to enforce an additional cost-like check when choosing attacks in battle.
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Bob the Hamster · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:40 am Post subject:

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speaking of stable releases how soon is it until werewaffle is complete?

Bob the Hamster · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:06 am Post subject:

Robot · **Skeleton King** Joined: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 72

I like your idea, and the balance question is definitely an issue. I'd suggest trying this system out (just thought of it).

Numbers used for example, though I would keep the ratios of damage.

Mages get 3 MP

There are 3 levels of spells:

Level 1: 1 MP
Fire - 100 damage

Level 2: 2 MP
Fira - 175 dmg

Level 3: 3 MP
Firaga - 250 dmg

A Melee attack does 50 damage from your strongest fighter.

And after a battle you get everything back. Make sure mages only do 5 damage with a Melee attack. Thus, it will be most beneficial to cast 3 level 1 spells, but it takes longer, so it balances. Or you can just nuke with the level 3, but your character will be basically ineffective for the rest of the battle, so the player has choices to make.

Also, instead of gaining spells with levels, consider spellbooks that teach spells, so the player has to "earn" the right to nuke monsters.
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Moogle1 · Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:22 am Post subject:

Robot, you should play Darkmoor Dungeon, which does something similar to what you're describing (especially the Wizard character).
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J.A.R.S. · Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:38 am Post subject:

on a sidenote, HP cost is also a great modifier for gameplay.