Castle Paradox

RPGCreations · **E Pluribus Unum** Joined: 18 May 2003 Posts: 345

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djfenix · Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Posts: 359

The only person on CP who has a problem with CP is you, Fyre. So if you don't like the way it works, and if you don't want CP to mess with any of your copyright crap, why put it up on CP in the first place? You also stated "You may not distribute this game without permission of RPGCreations", so technically, if you put it up on CP, doesn't that mean you're giving CP the permission to distribute it? If you intend on putting up a game that might cause problems like this, just don't put it up at all and distribute it yourself.

Setu_Firestorm · Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:51 am Post subject:

Do you have your idea copyrighted?

If yes, then don't put it up in CP if you have such a big problem with it.

If no, then shut the freak up!

Boy, I'm not being nice today!
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RPGCreations · **E Pluribus Unum** Joined: 18 May 2003 Posts: 345

djfenix · Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Posts: 359

So, if you want to revoke their permission, just tell them, and they'll remove the game. The CP admin clearly stated why they didn't want to add a delete feature. If you want them to respect your decision, then respect theirs as well.

Aethereal · Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 1:32 am Post subject:

The game's already been removed at Fyre's request. Anyway, this thread's starting to turn into another argument war, so I think I'm going to close it. If you have a problem with CP, Fyre, then don't visit it or upload your stuff to it. Problem solved. End of story.

[Edit: Unlocked at Jazz's request and so that Fyre could answer Jazz's post.]
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Jazz_Man · Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 248 Location: My basement.

Ummm...Kidder.... I have a small problem with the picture of the Installation information screen you posted... see, I downloaded the game when it was uploaded to the CP server. The closest screen I found during the install process was this one.

Here's the differences:

1: Most obviously, in the top white bar, it says "The RGPL does not apply to SoJ2:PD".... I can only assume this was the original liscense you created to distribute games (which you didn't release it under anyway...) but I'd like to point that no where on this thing does it mention the RNSPL you mentioned it was released under.

2: Everything under number 1 of the one you posted starting with "or non-profit" to the end of Number 1, you added. It appears as though this were added so you could make a screenshot and claim it said this to begin with. The original makes no implications about you having control over distribution, hence, CP is not at fault here.

3: Everything in Number 2 of the one you posted after "or 'trainers'" to the end of it, you added in as well. Hmmm... some of that text looks as if it was ripped straight out of the message thread as what you claimed was in the original liscense... how odd.

4: Number 3 of the one you posted is brand new. Also, I'll have to check and see if you can legally create your own liscense....but I'm not sure. You may be right here, but doubtful.

Wow...that's an awful lot of differences... and the version I downloaded, I downloaded from CP...meaning you submitted it before any of your "liscense" was in effect, negating any legal action taken by you against CP. As long as CP distributes the original copy, they are free to do so, and you have no say, regardless.

Hmmm....ya know, someone might think you changed the Install info screen to back up what you're saying... but nooo...you wouldn't stoop THAT low...would you?

:flamedevil:

It should be noted that I tried to help Kidder, and talk civily, and unbiased to him about this. I tried to get him to see things like a rational human being, but to no avail. So, I felt it pertinent to post this.

(PS: Anyone thinking I may have doctored this up, no. I can send you the original file (FREE FROM TEH LAW!!) so you can see for yourself. I know jack about programming, so it'd be obvious I haven't touched it.)

(PPS: Kidder, you can continue to use my music in SoJ2, but I simply ask you give credit where credit is due and "DON'T STEAL TEH COPYWRITE!1")

[Edit by Aeth: And I can back that up, too.]

~Jazz

RPGCreations · **E Pluribus Unum** Joined: 18 May 2003 Posts: 345

Oh, motherfucking jeez. You DID download the latest one, right? The one that DOES HAVE YOUR CREDITS (Shut up Aeth. I'll wait until you start crediting others for "your" work.) The final beta upload is available here, (post a couple of days ago) and this was the last one uploaded to the Game List. You got the early version which was fixed soon after (as I simply forgot to save the changes I was working on.) It doesn't matter, anyway. the RNSPL license still applies to previous releases of the game and it is clearly stated that EVEN IN that installer, the RGPL does not apply (the public license.) Furthermore, this is beyond the point - CP cannot keep the file on their servers, no matter what. They do not have and never will have legal ground there.

And there are no laws concerning the creation of licenses - you may create one at any time for any reason. It's just as legit as the GPL or any *L.
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