Castle Paradox

Raekuul · Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:22 am Post subject:

Okay. We have 8 element slots to work with. Multiple elements can be assigned to the same attack, correct?
Anyway, here is my (standard) element set

Moogle1 · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject:

I'm curious how an attack could be "Fire" and not "Heat."
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TwinHamster · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject:

Same applies to blood and water.

If you want Heat, then you might want to consider swapping Blood for Cold.

I also never realized that the Jedi had a whole element to themselves.

no_shot · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject:

Let's not forget the fifth element: Love!
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Raekuul · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject:

Element A "Heat"
Focuses on the actual thermal aspect of things. Example: Frostbite, Plazmar
Element B "Fire"
Focuses on combustion and ignition. Example: Flame Arrow, Plazmar
Element C "Water"
Focuses on manipulating H2O and liquids. Example (sorry james!): Triad Bubble, Aqua Cannon
Element D "Air"
Focuses on manipulating gases, including water vapor. Example: Twister, Vacuum Burst
Element E "Ground"
Includes gravity and quake spells, mostly a way to squeeze in a physical attack stat element. Example: Quake, Seismic Leap
Element F "Cure"
Focuses on curing others. Example: TeamCure, FieldCure
Element G "Blood"
Focuses on curing self at the cost of others. Example: DrainFang, DrainFog
Element H "Force"
Focuses on spells that don't really fit into the others but don't use physical attack stat either, e.g. DragonBurst, Sonic Blast
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Newbie_Power · Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 1762

In all seriousness, it's probably better to reduce the number of Elementals as possible in an OHR game, to about four, because Elements are important for fake battle scripting.

I just have:

Physical
Magic
Status

That's it. And the rest are for spawning things.
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Moogle1 · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject:

I'm confused why you've made elements for all of those things. In particular, the Cure element seems unnecessary.

Elements are useful for a few things only:
- Weakness, resistance, absorption
- Spawning

If you're not using any of those, there's no reason to dedicate an element to whatever it is you're doing.

(Edit)

"mostly a way to squeeze in a physical attack stat element."

???

Why don't you just make a Physical element?
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Moogle1 · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject:

Sorry, I could've been clearer -- if he's using the Cure element that way, then that's potentially useful. Just having a Cure element so that you can attach an element to your cure spells is not useful.

The element system that Newbie_Power mentioned is roughly based around the one in Darkmoor Dungeon. Most games won't need five spawning elements (DD did, but only for the last boss), but the question of whether damage elements are even a good idea is debatable, as evidenced by, you know, the rest of this thread.
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Raekuul · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject:

Well, that's still how I assign attributes to enemies... I guess that they're more like flags for me than anything else. I dunno.
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The Drizzle · **Who is the Drizzle?** Joined: 12 Nov 2003 Posts: 432

If it were just flags, I'd say that's fine, but the fact that it has such huge implications in battles is something to be less cavalier about. There'll be a lot of double damage and 12% damage in your game if your using them that way. That's nothing to scoff at.

Unless you plan that battles in that way. In that case my concerns are way off base. Your way isn't unworkable. But I think we're just trying to emphasize that maybe you could cut one of those elements and reserve it for spawning things.
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Raekuul · Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:39 am Post subject:

Yeah... maybe a battle triangle and a bunch of spawners.

I will be leaving in "Cure", though.
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