Castle Paradox

[CloudX]

I know everyone thinks i want everything done for me, but right now i need help on making plants grow like in harvest moon. The main part i require help with is making it so that when you have a bag of seeds equiped, that on key press, youll spread seeds all around you. a 3x3 square below you. Ofcourse these would be npcs, but i dont know who to make them appear like that. Any help would be appreciated.

[*Worthy*]

I would use a maptile, rather than an NPC for that. To do this, simply use the "write map block (x,y,tile#)" command.

I'm sure I only vaguely, if at all, answered your question. If you have another question in specific, let me know.

~Worthy
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[CloudX]

Thank you so much! You dont know how much that helped! I cant wait to get a working version of this. And maybe i will name the main character Farmer Bob. Thanks again!

[Ysoft_Entertainment]

I would have to disagree with worthy on using maptiles there.
While using maptiles is a good idea, however using npcs is WAY better for several reasons

1, is the you can alter the npc stat for when the seed is growing
2, there is 8 graphics frame per npc, so it gives you enough graphics to make the seed grow from seeds to plants in no time at all.


so my advice use the npcs

and set up the counter in your day routine that checks like if 3 days passed, display the new shoots and alter npc so that you won't be able to walk on the seeds anymore.

hope this helps
and James's script is awsome, tried it myself.
although you gonna run into tiny problem. and her is the problem
after each use you gonna have to reequip the bag again.
unless of course you seed supply is infinite.
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[TMC]

I also disagree. If you use npcs, you are going to inevitably get a huge number of npcs on map, which will really slow your game down. Also, the problem with using alter npc is that every npc on the map is changed, so you can't plant some seeds and then come back a fe days later and plant more.


Why would you have to re-equip the bag after each use?
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[Guest]

well, which is easier to do?
scanning the entire map, and changing the maptiles over and over for the process of growing plants, or just altering npcs?

as for the reequipment of bag, well here is a reason

say the dude got 2 bags of seeds, as far as I know, the dude equipes, the bag, and when the seed is planted, the bag should be gone, right?

so he goes back and equipes the bag again.

thats why.
and in order for the game to dramatically slow down, is to animate the npcs, but if they are stationary, I don't think it will slow down the game.

[*Worthy*]

I would strongly recommend against NPCs. Not only would is slow your game down, but it would take up NPC slots in which you may want to include other things such as other characters in your game or whatever.

You would not have to scan the entire map if you use maptiles. If there are only certain areas where the player can plant stuff, that narrows down what you have to scan. Also, you can store where the player plants stuff in some way (like global variables). There are really a lot of ways to animate maptiles without having to scan the entire map, you just have to think.

Still, you may want to use NPCs. Just remember that when you use "alter NPC," it changes every NPC with that ID number, not just one copy of the NPC, which means you have to use one NPC (out of the 36) for each thing planted.

Let me know how your game progresses,

~Worthy
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[Ysoft_Entertainment]

ok......
tell me this, how about harvesting part of the game?
in this case npc would be an easy alternative.
the maptiles would be almost imposible to use for that part
but then again, I am a newbie, I will write my own harvest moon game and see if my theory works.
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[TMC]

Why would nps be harder at harvesting time?

You simply check the tile in front of the hero, change it to a dirt/cut off stalk tile if its a plant tile, and increment a GV.
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[junahu]

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Go CloudX! Woo! I hope this blows my crappy chicken farm out of the water.

Although I do warn you to be very careful about avoiding script buffer overloads. They're a real hassle.

I say go for maptiles rather than npcs. If you expand to keeping animals then you will really need all the npcs you can get.

Why not plant individual seeds like in the gamecube harvest moon?
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[*Worthy*]

I agree with what junahu said regarding buffer overflows. If you do use maptiles, stay away from running a cycle every tick scanning the map for planted objects. Since you are going to have a loop continuously running, it would be wise to make that main script very short and call many other scripts inside of it. Also, use "if" statements to minimize the amount of stuff the program checks. For example:

[TMC]

Well, I don't think that that would be such a good idea because it would run 'scan map' every tick for as long a hours == 6. You'll want to stick that in the code that increments the hours, so it is once run once each time.
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[Guest]

That's what I meant by the "#Whatever else you want to happen..." line; include whatever the increment hours coding was. I should have changed the "wait" to "wait (600)" though. Otherwise yes, it would run every tick for a while. My bad...

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