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[msw188]

Recently a post was made concerning the idea of a 'delete save' command, and one person's response was 'I haven't seen it on the dev mailing list or forum' (I'm paraphrasing, I think it was Fyrewulf who said this, but I can't remember exactly how he put it). Now I understand that a separate user-group for programmers and developers only is a good thing, and allows them to consider their business without the rest of us bothering them. But at the same time, I (who know nothing of 'actual programming' or 'developing') would very much like to know things like what features are being planned on added to the next OHR update, and what things are considered impossible. The reason is that when making a game, the capabilities of the OHR engine MUST be taken into account. Right now I have several broken features in my game waiting on the next update (or the next, or the next, etc.) because James Paige has told me that such things are possible and may be included in the next version. However, now that there is a whole group of people working on this, James Paige cannot give me all of the relevant information. Therefore I would like to request the following:

Can some of the leaders in the developing user group reply to this thread (or make one of their own, it doesn't much matter to me) that details exactly what it is that they plan on implementing in the next update? Some further thoughts on future updates, and on things that they can already see as impossible that they've considered?

[Ysoft_Entertainment]

for this release, we(the programmers) have implemented few saving and loading commands.
We implemented 32 save slots instead of the regular 4, also added commands like, save from slot, load from slot, last save slot, and many more saving and loading commands. The script running was optimized to save more script buffer. also mouse routines were also implemented.

There maybe few more features for this release of ohr.

as for the ohr codenamed rusalka, its going to have customizable menu system, weapon precision placement feature, strings output, and creation, embedding of strings inside the textboxes, ability to manipulate strings, building strings from hero names, embeding strings and other things into hero names and mapnames, probably even embedding strings into enemy names, and building strings from enemy names, hero names, textbox lines, and mapnames.

these are just some of the feature that can be expected in the next few updates.
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[The Drizzle]

Wow that's a lot of new features. When can we expect all this great stuff?
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[Moogle1]

The next release is due whenever James has one good night of programming, according to him (i.e. it's practically done). The release after that may take awhile.

The next release (quaternion) should have a lot of features implemented by the recent wave of programmers that have been slowly taking over CP.
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[TMC]

What? You misunderstood. I said

[msw188]

If there are any things you've already considered and decided to be impossible, I think that the game-makers would like to know. But for myself specifically, I am wondering about the following things:

1. Will NPCs ever be able to walk across the edges of a wraparound map?
2. Will there ever be a way for attacks to target bitsets (ie, making an enemy weak to a certain element, or making a hero strong to a certain element?)
3. Will there ever be a way to make certain spells available outside of battle only (such as a warp spell), that can call a plotscript perhaps?

[TMC]

1) This is listed as a bug, but I thought James said it would require a major rewrite of the mapping code. So don't expect it soon.

2) I don't know. Probably possible, by adding attack bitsets which effect enemy bitsets.

3) Seems like it would be easy to allow spells usable out of battle only. Since oob spells run through different code anyway, it wouldn't be a stretch to link a plotscript or textbox to a spell.
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[Raekuul]

What about "Don't target enemy slot X" Bitsets for enemies?
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[Uncommon]

This is perhaps one reason the Programmer's usergroup should be a public forum rather than a private usergroup. For casual readers curious about what's going on with the engine but aren't actually programmers.

[TMC]

The Programmer's user group is not devoted to the engine. There wouldn't really be a point making the usergroup public. The majority of discussion happens on the mailinglist, the archives of which can be found here, and people like discussing ports on ohrdev.

Actually, having another look, there aren't really enough attack bitsets to spare to to implement a whole lot of enemy bitset setting attack bitsets. Workarounds would get messy.

I'm actually not terribly sure about battles. I have not studied them in great length.
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[Moogle1]

Hmm, I have to agree. The most important things are discussed on the mailing list. Sign up for that and after wading through twenty letters on how strings should be implemented, you'll learn that the OHR is going to have strings.
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[Mike Caron]

Don't ask how, or when...

However, I did set up a WIP page, so people can try out the most recent version of the OHR without waiting:

http://ohr.finalfantasyq.com/index.php?section=13

That way you can try all the nifty features and what not that we added since Ozarks.
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[AdrianX]

..i have downloaded the WIP build,although i cant see any difference between that one and Ozarks..

[Mike Caron]

Well, here's the current "whatsnew.txt" from the source (I should probably add this file to the package...)

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