Castle Paradox

[Guthie]

It has now been one month (give or take a day or two) since CN and Uncy have been stripped of their Admin statii. Where have we gotten? What great and wonderful changes have occurred?

1. A ton of people are mad as hell.

2. Several people have demonstrated their complete inability to function in a logical debate.

3. Forum usage has dropped and I seriously doubt college finals have crap to do with it.

As a disclaimer, I've not been around long: about six months, I believe. Some of my information, deducted, inferred, and just ripped out of whatever source I could find may be faulty. But because I don't base my arguments on it too much, I don't think the faultiness of my knowledge is that damaging to their validity.

IM has a nice idea. Post some rules to increase civilty, change the way they are enforced to be more user-friendly, and generally bring the atmosphere of the place out of the elitist crap-pit it had started to become. He's right in this: too much sarcasm, flaming, and general hate was floating around this place. PHC and Gizmog1 are perfect examples of this, not that I have anything against them personally. The antisemitism stuff was unnecessary, and for those people who don't understand the fine art of sarcasm, quite hurtful. Racism isn't funny, anyway, even if it is in jest. And the signature used by Giz (and MCW) is also beyond the confines of "jest" and into the "slander" area. This kind of stuff needs to quit.

In addition to the overuse of bitter jokes and slaps, we have the "Scream-obsceneties-just-'cause-there's-no-rules-saying-we-can't" crowd and the "Turn-a-meaningful-thread-into-sex-jokes" crowd. Both are unnecessary. Yeah we're human, but that doesn't excuse this kind of crap (oops). What is the point of cussing people out just because you're not afraid to use the f-word? It's offensive to people with half a grain of sense, and really it's nothing more than an overgrown five-year-old's attention-getting act.

However, the method of IM's attempts to better the site was what he screwed up on. Stalin did wonders for the U.S.S.R.'s economy, but everyone still hates him. Why? He ruled with an iron fist, and everyone was terrified of what might happen if they didn't do exactly what they were told. Remember World History? What's the first thing Stalin did when he came to power? He killed everyone that helped him get there. Sound familiar? Same thing with Hitler. Heck, same thing with most of the Ceasers. So IM: Heil Inferior Minion!.

What IM did was wrong. I don't care if CN had banned half the population of CP on a whim, it still doesn't validate IM's just stripping him of his authority out of the blue. In regard to idiotic posts like this:

[LeRoy_Leo]

Disclaimer: This discussion was settled. I think the people that were pissed have settled down some. The only thing they don't like now is that IM hasn't released his new rules yet. Also that CP isn't as productive when it is not ruled with an iron fist.

[Setu_Firestorm]

Although I understand where you're coming from in this post, Guthie, it still isn't going to bring about any good, and will probably just re-stir trouble.

It's a shame to see you go, and I wish you the best of luck with your games.
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[RPGCreations]

[The Wobbler]

[Zombie Hunter Green]

When IM tears down CP and rebuilds it, it'd be nice if he would just skip the rebuilding part. This forum is getting to be too dumb to live.

[Guthie]

Oh darn. I came back. I knew what would happen, but I just needed to witness it.

LeRoy: I see. Well, I suppose that's all well and good until you recall that IM didn't consult any of the other admins (at least none have said that they were consulted). IM shouldn't have done this "under the cover of night," and your metaphor made you appear to be backing his method. My apologies.

Setu: Thank you. And yes, I knew what would happen. In fact, I planned to make this point a long time ago, but school had other ideas and I was delayed until the two good threads to make these points in were closed.

RPGCreations: Did I ever say CN was correct in banning people right and left? Show me, and I'll apologize and withdraw. And what proof do you have that posting has gone down because of a sudden community-wide workaholic attitude? Although that's beside the point because of your next statement. Where did I say that posting was the metrestick that I used to measure forum health?

I'd back IM up on CN's removal (I'm not sure what Unc did, so I have nothing to say there), but they way in which he removed them was flawed. Like I said, I don't know a lot about the way in which this community is run since I haven't been here long enough to investigate it fully. But from what I've gathered, the admins discuss every banning, authority-stripping, and essentially everything else they do that affects the way CP's members or the way in which it runs. Since IM disregarded this procedure, he violated trust and responsiblity. And "backstab"...I see. Now I know what it means and I will cease using it incorrectly. Thank you.

Did I say that you could disregard my post? I mean, I'm sure if the community were a million replicas of you it certainly would, but thanks be to God that it's not. I said that it doesn't matter if IM thought I was being arrogant (and banned me), since I was leaving. Oh yeah: here I am, standing behind my words. Happy?

PHC: Thank you for getting my name correct. And I was not in complete understanding of the "Anti-semitism" thing. I knew a bunch of stuff that involved it was going around, and I knew most of it was coming from your direction, but this puts it in a bit different light. This groups it with Giz and MCW as slander. Calling someone anti-semite (slander) is a far cry from just telling them they have a screw loose (sarcasm). But the bitter sarcasm is what I was referring to there.

OK, the "Heil Inferior Minion!" thing. This was to drive my point home. Yeah, it's sarcasm, but it's sarcasm with a point. Or, as IM would call it, "constructive critiscism." This is to say, "Hey, this is where everyone else who's done this sort of thing went," not to slander him. He ain't there yet, and hopefully he never will be.

Yes, it's time to move on. Jeez, drive me on, why don't you? I have posted for a while as SlightlyPyro before I drowned that account in absolute stupidity (I accidentally changed the e-mail address to one that doesn't exist anymore). And everywhere else I am, I'm known as Guthie. So here I am. But back to the point. Yeah, I never released a game, but I learned a heckuva lot from OHR. Anyway, I figured no one would care if I left, and I'm glad to see that I was correct in that this community is devolving into callousness. "Heh, we lost another member, who cares?" mindset emanates.

Since I've suddenly become quite popular, I'll hang around a bit longer to "stand behind my own words."
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I walk this empty street
On the Boulevard of Broken Dreams.
Where the city sleeps
and I'm the only one, and I walk alone.
-Green Day: Boulevard of Broken Dreams

[ChocoSOLDIER]

Some people just take everything too seriously.

Maybe it is time to move on. I was never really a respected member of this community, and to be honest, there were damn few of you here that I respected, either.

Maybe the lack of respect sprang from dumb crap like this, though. Doesn't matter now. I'm gone.

[RPGCreations]

I know more people are working on their games because requests via IRC/AIM for plotscripting help and Help Me board posts have increased aswell.

Whether or not they upload their games to CP is irrelevant.
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[Jazz_Man]

Ooo, fun...

[Calehay]

Truthfully, I think this topic shouldn't be brought up any longer.

[Fenrir-Lunaris]

[Shadowiii]

Thirded. This was just brought up to stir up conflict.

Oh, and for the record, the reason I've been got was because of college finals. It's a hell of a lot harder then you probably think it is. Hint: About 20x harder then HS finals.
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But enough talk, have at you!

[Aethereal]

*pops in*

You also forgot the part about the loss of a whole bunch of long-time OHR members, including myself.

*ducks back out*
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