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Cartlemmy's compositions for Wandering Hamster

 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Cartlemmy's compositions for Wandering Hamster Reply with quote

Some of you may have heard these already if you watch the wiki, but I thought I would show off Cartlemmy's (Josh Merritt's) compositions for Wandering Hamster.

These are the mp3 versions, not the midi versions that will appear in the actual game.

http://hamsterrepublic.com/jukebox/

I'd like to put together a high-quality soundtrack collection, but unfortunately mp3-conversions of my crappy old BAM's sound pretty lame alongside Cartlemmy's stuff.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll say this much: this guy's got his own original sound.

Tilde - I'm not sure about this. Personally, I don't think hillbilly music and trance are a very good mix, but that's just my taste speaking and not necissarily bad for the composition.

Battle 1 - This kept a lightheartedness to it despite that it had a serious tone to it.

Battle 2 - This should have an MP3 appearance in the game (if only OHR supported MP3s), because I can't imagine a MIDI version of this sounding as good as the MP3.

This guy's got some neat stuff going for your game.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, various nightlies already support MP3 music, which works quite nicely! The only problem is the size of the songs themselves. It is possible to compress the MP3 quality by reducing the bitrate they're played at and not lose TOO much quality. I say too much, because at lower bitrates, some MP3s will get butchered.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Convertors/DietMP3.shtml

James, what you may want to consider is a "enhanced" version of Wandering Hamster that you could sell by CD, which would have the better MP3 tracks replacing the regular midi music. OR, you could bundle a "music of Wandering Hamster" CD with extras too.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fenrir-Lunaris wrote:
James, what you may want to consider is a "enhanced" version of Wandering Hamster that you could sell by CD, which would have the better MP3 tracks replacing the regular midi music. OR, you could bundle a "music of Wandering Hamster" CD with extras too.


Yes, I might do an alternate distriution with higher quality music.

Although would definitely use ogg vorbis rather than MP3. The quality on OGG files is better, and it is *much* easier to make them smaller.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, would we use Audacity? Or is there a direct mp3 to OGG program?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was under the impression that MP3 and OGG were just two different forms of compression, although I don't know any programs that render OGG (funny this topic is being brought up considering I just got done talking to someone about this not too long ago).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raekuul wrote:
So, would we use Audacity? Or is there a direct mp3 to OGG program?


Audacity or OggDropXP or the combination of the command-line utils mpg123+oggenc

Setu_Firestorm wrote:
I was under the impression that MP3 and OGG were just two different forms of compression, although I don't know any programs that render OGG (funny this topic is being brought up considering I just got done talking to someone about this not too long ago).


MP3 is part of the old MPEG spec. You can vary the bitrate of mp3 compression, but it is a little bit of a hack, IMHO

OGG Vorbis is a newer spec, and is specifically designed to be patent-free. The encoder has good bit-rate controls built right into it, so you can easily encode pretty much any level of quality you want. But at default settings, ogg is slightly smaller and slightly better quality than a similar mp3.

OGG is rather rare in media players and i-pod clones, but it is becoming very common in games (both open-source and commercial)

The way I think of it, (and this is only a rough analogy):
OGG is to MP3 as PNG is to GIF.
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