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Nathan Karr
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Sayonara Reply with quote

I'm just stopping in to tell you that I've found a webforum more to my liking, where I actually get respect and people laugh at my jokes. I am now registered at Christian-RPG.net, under the username I would have used here if not for a simple misunderstanding.

I will still be making and updating my games(unless this thread gets me banned, which I pray it doesn't), but you won't see me on the forums anymore. I know that 99.999% of you aren't going to miss me, but I'm fine with that. Now, I'd like to get a little bit off my chest:

I have been, for years now, annoyed at the high swear frequency and sexual content of the games made by your typical OHR user.

I have never actually had anything specifically against PHC, he just made a bunch of the games that offended me most, and I wasn't afraid to say so. For all our differences, PHC, you and I are actually not all that different...we're both human, we're both male, and the heroes of both our main series are based off of random enemies from Dragon Warrior.

Fenrir, your games sicken me. I've looked up furry in the Wikipedia, and discovered that I *AM* a furry. But I'm a furry of the clean and innocent kind, and you're a yiffmonger.

IM, I have no idea why, but I am on ChaosNyte's side...and I have no idea what the fight was about. I just feel sortof...led to defend him.

Hunter Green, I never formally apologized for trying to steal your thread, that I can remember. I'm sorry.

Sephyroth, my stubbornness in continuously reviving dead threads triggered your suicide. I'm sorry.

I came here to make games, not start fights. I started reviving dead threads because I beleived that I was adding things to discussions, and noone asked me politely to stop. In fact, the first several PMs I got on the subject really implied that the people who don't like thread revival are a minority, and therefore I had no real reason to stop. I still know the way I handled this was wrong, and I knew it then, too.

However, I have been apologizing like this almost since I stopped. When I couldn't get forgiveness, I tried explaining this so that I could at least get some understanding. Even that fell on deaf ears.

CastleParadox.com, I was sent here by God to try to set a good example and clean this place up from the inside. I failed miserably. I steadied myself and tried again, but my reputaion was alredy shot.

I came here without money, without extra clothes, without even a walking stick. None of you took me in, so I shall now walk away and shake the dust of this city from my sandals. If you want to reform now, you can go ahead and do so. God had mercy on Nineveh, and would have had mercy on Sodom and Gommorah. He may just have mercy on you.

However, I am leaving.

-Sayonara says the Ronin Catholic, Nathan Daniel Paul Miki Karr
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

- I'm curious which PHC games offended you. Gizmog's are much more offensive. JSH's are more offensive. Also, Surlaw is not based off any Dragon Warrior enemy.

- That's a pretty categorical statement against Fenrir's games. Are you talking about FFH? Vikings of Midgard? What?

- The CN/IM thing is years old.

- Similarly, Hunter Green hasn't posted in prolly a year.

- Hey, you can't complain about being unpopular! You won the avatar contest a couple months ago.

- But on the other hand, don't expect to become more popular by disappearing for a few months only to show up to announce your departure.

- Did you ever think you've been going about this the wrong way? God is probably slapping his face and shaking his head in shame. Also, making a couple of posts every few months hardly counts as a good faith effort on your part.

- Gomorrah, not Gommorah.

- I'm curious how failure to take you seriously constitutes grievous sin. All you've done in your brief tenure here is spout generic repentance and condemnation towards those you perceive to be sinful. Your technique needs some serious brushing up.

- This is internet.

Well, bye then. It's been short.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Sayonara Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen the light. Begone, evil doers! It's Ronin Catholic for me.

In other news, whos gimmick account is this? Seriously.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I have learned to not preach on the game related forums. Whatever you say here will be used against you when you make a mistake. Do what I do... Ignore everyone and do what you think is right. One more thing I learned, don't expect everyone to have same opinions as you do.

Well Sayonara dude.
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Artimus Bena
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just... ugh.

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All you've done in your brief tenure here is spout generic repentance and condemnation towards those you perceive to be sinful.


I agree completely.

Warning, what is written below is opinion, and I'm not going to hold very much back.

Nathan, I personally find this post to be something like 80% senseless bullshit. But that's probably because of my general opinions on the subject of religious thought. I haven't met or encountered anybody as blindly faithful to thin air as you. And you realize you compared us to the ASSYRIANS. What a broad labeling. You basically just called us SO SINFUL that GOD HIMSELF might smite us all if he weren't so merciful. Last I checked, and yes I was Christian once, god gave explicit instructions not to make such judgments on your own. Ever consider that "sinful" people are here for a reason? To test your faith? To make you stronger in it?

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I came here without money, without extra clothes, without even a walking stick. None of you took me in, so I shall now walk away and shake the dust of this city from my sandals. If you want to reform now, you can go ahead and do so. God had mercy on Nineveh, and would have had mercy on Sodom and Gommorah. He may just have mercy on you.


What drama. Sandals? Walking stick? My god. I'm very sorry nathan, but this holier-than-thou attitude is probably why some people don't get you or listen to you. Conversely, if you're really on some mission to convert people, why are you giving up? Did Job? Did Jonah? Did Moses? I mean, you ARE just another one of these figures, right? A struggling servant always being tested? From your point of view, that is to say from the purist Christian point of view, you giving up is the failure.

By the way, how the hell did God have mercy on those places?? He warned a family in both cases, if I'm not mistaken, and then in his merciful might, he drowned his children, or rained fire on them. Wow. Nathan, I will bet you money our society is much worse than those societies in a lot of ways, or at least as bad under the shiny surface. If God were consistent, we'd have had mass earthquakes and erupting volcanoes wipe us from the planet by now.

[edit] I misread; you said "WOULD have had" in sodom and gamorrah's case. Disregard most of previous paragraph.

Forgive me if this response goes too far, but I would rather us all say what we feel instead of wondering whose feelings are going to be hurt. It may be everyone's freedom to be happy, but it's also everyone's freedom to speak their mind. This is a disclaimer for some of you nit-picky people, you know who you are.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Artimus Bena wrote:
Conversely, if you're really on some mission to convert people, why are you giving up? ... Did Jonah?


Um, yeah, Jonah kinda did.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stand corrected then. Haven't read the story in ages.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As christian I can say without feeling bad that you're a dick. And a wuss dick at that. If you thinky our getitng picke don just endure though it, people that say "I can't take it" and run away never make it to the bible. God didn't send you anywhere to do anything, you're delusional and possibly insane. This is a videogame website for OHR people who make video games. You can't get mad just becaus epeopel don't share your views.

Its intolerance of ideas like your that make christians look bad.

It the general intolerance of everything that is slowly killing the catholic church today.


CHoasNyte is the one who made HENTAI QUEST, the msot downright filthy of any game on this entire site, and you're on his side?

If you're going to be an ass at least be a consistant ass, you are a hypocritical ass that contradicts himself.

I will admit making fun of you is liek shooting fish in barrel so I will miss you, but in general I'm happy your gone.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Battleblaze wrote:
CHoasNyte is the one who made HENTAI QUEST, the msot downright filthy of any game on this entire site, and you're on his side?


Have you ever played Hentai Quest? It has no hentai.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ronin Catholic wrote:
Fenrir, your games sicken me. I've looked up furry in the Wikipedia, and discovered that I *AM* a furry. But I'm a furry of the clean and innocent kind, and you're a yiffmonger.


You must be referring to BLB. I would note that the game itself outright warns you not to play it, both in game, in the description, even in the name itself. If you STILL play it after all that, you deserved every sanity raping moment it gave you, you closet pervert.

Also, using Wikipedia for your fact-gathering research may be commendable, but may I recommend you use CONSERVAPEDIA instead? You may find it more to your liking as an "accurate and honest source of factual information".

Finally, I fail to see why you bothered to say "goodbye", when you registered a second identity on the website. Unless you're using it for your game-uploading purposes (which is a reasonable use), there's no point to it. Also, as far as I'm aware, you haven't done anything to get yourself banned for starting this thread. Your atypically jerkish attitude however, is just begging to be made fun of - consider yourself earmarked for a comedic lampooning in an upcoming OHR Comic.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dudes, most of this stuff you said is stuff God told me that very night when I read my Bible before going to sleep. For one thing, he said I have to stay here and prophesy for another 390 days, then then this place will be judged. I'm not sure when he started counting; it could be when my ban was lifted(unlikely; I think that's already gone by), it could be when I read it...or it could be counting down from when I warn you(which I think is most likely) Yes, I regularly wear sandals, even in the bitter Michigan winter...because they're cheap and easy to remove so that I can walk barefoot sometimes. I do have a walking stick; well, maybe more of a club.

If you want to, you can consider Nathan Karr to be my gimmick account. I do...now that I have my own email address, rather than piggybacking on someone else. You have my word as a gentleman, a Prophet of God, and a Knight that should Ronin Catholic get banned, Nathan Karr won't show up to override it. Nathan Karr is dead; he will never post again.

I never said I agreed with ChaosNyte...I'm not even sure what posesses me to side with him. I think that his games are among the smuttiest. But God seems to keep telling me that I have to do something with him; he keeps telling me that the current administration will fall and an old ruler will return, but I don't quite understand that. I'm just trusting in God on this one.

Intolerance is a GOOD thing. Endurance is better than tolerance. I cannot tolerate even small ammounts of immoral sex or foul language...but sometimes I can endure a little bit of it

Maybe Surlaw isn't intentionally based upon a Dragon Warrior enemy; but he IS almost identical to the Walrusthrope in DW4; I saw lots of nods towards Dragon Warrior in Super Walrus Chef, so I just assumed that there was a direct link where appaerently there isn't.

Yes, everything that Nathan Karr ever posted he did really feel...he was never really inconsistant, he just omitted several key facts through bad memory; not that he wasn't thinking them, just that he forgot to post them. The only time he lied intentionally was just before he got banned; when he said that he revived dead posts because he thought it was right, instead of just saying he didn't know it was wrong. Also, because he considered it his right to judge people, instead of just their work, he assumed many people were arrogant that weren't and so on. Anyway, glad he's dead, aren't we all?

I have been just as offended, if not more so, by Gizmog's games than PHC's, and God reminded me of that on Friday night. Sorry for the omission.

I've never played any of JSH's games, partly because I never knowingly play a game with swear words in the title, and partly because before I realized that "OMFG" was swearing, the games wouldn't download right.

I like the overall ideas of many games, especially ones like ARFENHOUSE, but swearing and sex really get on my nerves. Playing a game that is 87% enjoyable makes me wish the author was cleaner so that it could be 99.87% enjoyable, instead.

I know, and have known, that I cannot really affect your choices one way or the other. I can, at best, remind you of the choices you can make, nd the concequences thereof.

Now then, games are essentially food for your soul. Eating crap food and playing crap games are essentially the same. You fill your soul with sex and swearing, and you become sex and swearing. If you are sex and swearing, that is what your games will be. Games with horrible gameplay, numerous glitches, and horribly written storylines are like junk food; they don't really hurt, but they surely don't do any good.

On top of swearing and sex, I am at odds with bad religeon and philosophy.

I am at odds with Shadowiii's game STOP, and its claim that anyone can become God just by being able to create something from nothing, and knowing everything. Those are two aspects of God, but by no means all of them. God cannot create another being to equal Himself; not anyomore than He can create a rock big enough to crush himself. He can create beings as powerful as the one gods of any other religeon; he created Fenrir, afterall, and I am the new Odin. However, all gods are meant to point towards the True God. (For more on my beleif like this, read C.S.Lewis's "That Hideous Strength," the rest of you, just ignore it as my arrogance.)

My judgements against Fenrir's games apply to all of them I've played, to some extent or another. I've played Timestream Saga, Inheritor, Legend of Cale, FFR and both versions of FFH. I cannot think of even one of them to be free of yiff; albeit, FFH was the lightest. Also, I disagree with Chaos's claim that "religeon opposes science;" Pagan religeon does that; Atheist religeon does that; Christianity in general, and Catholocism in particular, has been the main force that drove science forward over the past fifteen hundred years. I will concede that the religeon of four goddesses in FFH isn't really supposed to be Christianity; but it sure feels like a parody of it to me. And an inaccurate parody, at that. I also oppose his games on the fact that the furry characters claim that being part animal gives them rights to special morality, and then demand to be treated the same as humans dispite their constant blatant immorality. If the Zyrans had any sense, they'd have beheaded Vulpes the first time she hit on something that wasn't Zyran, to spare their race's reputaition. It's sortof funny how I had been a furry for some ten years(since I was nine!) and didn't know it, because the only stuff I had ever heard about furries was that they dressed up in costume and had sex.

Now, Nathan Karr was an idiot; he brought a gun to a swordfight, and then tried to slice his opposition with the gun. I will not make the same mistake; philosophical battle is to be fought with rapier wit, not yelling loudly and acting indignant.

You may notice that while I say I am offended, annoyed, outraged, and disgusted by the content of the games here, I never once said I was shocked. All of the evils represented by these games I have either commuted myself, or contemplated commiting. An experienced Christian cannot be shocked by any evil. I have done worse than yell God's name as an insult or an exlaimation of pain; I have written stories where Ronin Catholic = God, rather than Ronin Catholic < God, serves God, and tries his best to know God.

I never actually remember saying I was better than anyone. If anyone thinks he is the knig of sinners, he is wrong. My crown shall not be taken away from me. I acted like I was a judge of men; I'm not, I'm a maker of games, a player of games, and a judge of games.

I was commited to this community when first I played Exposing the Unknown and Den said "Why not swear? The kids are just going to learn those words anyway." and is given the response "You're right. Swear all you want."

Battleblaze, God did send me here; He is repeating with me the instructions He gave to Noah, and to Job, and to Lot, and to Jeremiah. Thanks for being forthright and calling me a dick; I almost deserved it. Also, I never got that cameo in Castle Paradox Versus. How hard can it be to make a wandering NPC whose textbox consists of "Hi!"?

You can burn a man for his philosophy; this has been done for generations, and shows that a society at least understands what is important. What is wrong is to say that his philosophy doesn't matter, and say that he is entitled to his opinion. Every man's opinion is important, for the good reason that it is his opinion. If he didn't think it was right, he wouldn't hold it. You can say I'm crazy, stupid, and arrogant for claiming to be a prophet; but you can't convince me that I'm not. I'm not sorry for annoying or offending you, and I won't expect you to be sorry for annoying or offending me.

If you want me to prove that I am a prophet of God, here is my prediction: You will get drunk and attack one another.

I wan't trying to compare CP to the Assyrians, although there are some paralells. I compare it more to Jerusalem. God chose this people for something good; instead we, sometimes including myself, chose to follow other gods and do that which we know is wrong. God has us taken away, but will take us back.

PHC, I'm glad to see we're no longer enemies; although I'll be the first to admit that 99.99% of the animosity was from my side. Thanks for being cool about this and not losing your head like I did.

Thanks for the general spelling and grammar corrections. I really, really love receiving those(honest!). I like being corrected; it makes me feel that I'm worth correcting.


Yes, Nathan is dead, and all may rejoice. Ronin has come, and some will hate him more than Nathan, some will love him more, and most simply won't care.
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