Castle Paradox

Smeargle · Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 25

If you edit a game in the nightly build of custom, can you still edit it again
and save it in the stable.

Moogle1 · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject:

Yes. I'm curious why you'd want to switch back and forth, though.
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Smeargle · Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 25

In case there is some horrible bug in the nightly and I want to switch back.
That and I am just curious.

Would you recommend that I use the nightly or the stable to make my game?

JSH357 · Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1705

I'd recommend the stables personally. I've had significant issues with the nightlies in the past. It's up to you though: if there is some feature in a nightly that you are desperate to have, go for it.

King Sasuke · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:54 am Post subject:

I prefer to use nightlies.They offer the right features I need for my game.
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Bob the Hamster · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:11 am Post subject:

Usually you can edit a game with the nightly and then go back to the stable version-- but not always. Sometimes new features require changes in the RPG format.

If you choose to use a nightly, and you encounter a serious bug that makes you want to go back, you should go to http://gilgamesh.hamsterrepublic.com/nightly-archive/ and find the newest nightly that doesn't have the bug.

That way you minimize the risk of backwards compatibility problems, plus when you report the bug, you can tell us which version it first appeared in, which often makes it easier to track down the problem and get it fixed.

Blue Pixel · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:30 am Post subject:

Smeargle · Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 25

so far I have only use the nightlies for no more than 10 min. just to take
advantage of some of the new graphics capabilities (mark and clone)
I can't think of many other features I saw that I needed, but I only really looked at the graphics. Would you think I would have any problems if
I continue doing this?

King Sasuke · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject:

I wouldn't think so but you never know.
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JSH357 · Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1705

You're welcome to keep using it; just be aware that there is always a risk. To be fair, the newer nightlies seem to be far more stable than the old ones were. Also, you'll probably want to make sure the game runs in a stable version of the OHR if possible. Even if you get around any stability issues with Custom, Game can be an entirely different problem.

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The Drizzle · **Who is the Drizzle?** Joined: 12 Nov 2003 Posts: 432

When was mark and clone added?? I feel like I've been missing out.
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Rya.Reisender · **Snippy** Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 821

About the time I returned. Before I came to forums I gave that suggestion and it was added really fast~
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TMC · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:24 am Post subject:

There's a risk in swapping back and forth between Custom versions. It's something we've largely ignored and assumed users don't do, I think, so I can't really say how bad the effects can be, but I'm guessing that only major changes might cause damage.

Current nightlies are nearly identical to what will be released as Werewaffle, because it is basically finished. The remaining release-blocking bugs are all usability bugs.

Typically, there are quite a fair number of often horrible bugs continually introduced in SVN that are fixed soon after. I only remember one or two data corrupting ones, but the number of people who might have downloaded a nightly at just the wrong moment always worries me. On the other hand, the nightlies of course contains lots of fixes for bugs that other people are stuck with (and complain about) for months. We seriously need to release more often to make stables more satisfactory. This delayed release is mostly my fault.

For my personal use, there's no doubt: nightlies are way better than stable releases. But that's because I can judge which nightlies should be avoided, and which parts of the engine might be unstable.

FyreWulff · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject:

If you update the Quaternion jade .rpg file to the latest version at some point, there's random data in the description fields.

I always assumed that was due to how many changes/ non-zero'd data the file had gone through.