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Why OHRRPG doesn't run on my computer?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: Why OHRRPG doesn't run on my computer? Reply with quote

I use Windows XP and i'm trying to run custom.exe but after few seconds it freezes. I tried again but I failed.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There could be a multitude of reasons, but my first suggestion is to try a different backend nightly to see if you can find one more compatible with your hardware.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where exactly does it freeze? There's a known bug that on some computers only, Game and Custom sometimes freeze while loading (and rarely while exiting), especially at "Loading...". Are you saying that it happened while doing something else? Try to run it a few more times, and see if it always happens.

The sdl-sdl backend might not be affected by the same problem, but it's not really stable at the moment.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDIT: Nightly and plain version doesn't work. It freezes in that sections where are options: New Game and Load Existing Game.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, wow. So, it doesn't freeze the instant you get to that menu, but after a few seconds on it? Perhaps the 'ohrrpgce-wip-sdl-sdl.zip' nightly will help you.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Why OHRRPG doesn't run on my computer? Reply with quote

Crenomaster wrote:
I use Windows XP and i'm trying to run custom.exe but after few seconds it freezes. I tried again but I failed.


So game.exe never freezes, right? Only custom.exe freezes?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, game.exe seems to freeze too since I haven't started any game. Oookay...

Have anyone else encountered this problem once?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DOUBLE ACCOUNT.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yo!

Some suggestions to try:

1)
http://hamsterrepublic.com/ohrrpgce/nightly/ohrrpgce-wip-fb-silence.zip has no sound support. If your crash is being caused by music, then this one should not crash... If it still crashes, then we can safely assume that your crash is caused by something else.

2)
Do you have a joystick or gamepad attached? If so, disconnect it. Do game and custom still crash?

3)
Can you restart your computer in "Safe Mode" and see if game and custom crash? If you don't know how to use safe mode, let me know, and I will explain.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. No, still doesn't work.
2. I don't have any gamepads or joystick.
3. No, how?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crenomaster wrote:
1. No, still doesn't work.
2. I don't have any gamepads or joystick.
3. No, how?


Reboot your computer, and keep tapping the F8 key. Before the windows logo appears you should see a menu with white text on a black screen. The first choice in the menu is "Safe Mode"

In safe mode, your desktop wallpaper will be hidden, and all of your icons will be bigger. No extra software will be running, you will just have the minimum windows configuration. Internet will not work while you are in safe mode.

Try running game and custom, and see if they crash.

Then reboot your computer to get back into normal mode.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Mad Cacti wrote:
Hmm, wow. So, it doesn't freeze the instant you get to that menu, but after a few seconds on it?


Could you confirm this?

Also, question: do you have a dual core CPU or multiple CPUs?

Another thing: can you find any files named c_debug.txt or g_debug.txt in the folder where custom.exe or game.exe is? What's in them?

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I have just built game.exe and custom.exe xocolatl with a build of Freebasic from SVN (a version part way to 0.21b), and also used the (supposedly, but in my experience not) multithreading-safe library for custom, which was surprisingly not being used. Please try it out.
http://tmc.castleparadox.com/ohr/xocolatl-fb_svn_0.21-mt.zip
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

James, still I say that even if it could be world's best invention, i believe that wouldn't work still unless God comes and tells me that is true.

Will OHRRPG still run without errors after using Safe Mode?
I think i try first your OHRRPGCE program.

NOTE: Your version of OHRRPGCE crashes too. And about CPUs..... Kinda stupid, but I'm not a computer expert. Dunno what CPU. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crenomaster wrote:
Will OHRRPG still run without errors after using Safe Mode?


If game and custom work without crashing in safe mode, then that means that the crash is probably being caused by some other program that runs in the background in normal mode.

If game and custom crash in safe mode, then that narrows down the possible causes of the crash.
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