Castle Paradox

[cavemanerick]

Sorry to ask another stupid question but i couldn't find anything about these types of spells and why does it only use them 1 time. Wat use so this come in for usually.

[Calehay]

FF1 style spells are similar to the kind seen in Final Fantasy I. Instead of MP, these spells draw from their own pool of points. There's eight levels of spells that each have their own pool, and you can have 3 spells in each level. When placing spells in the Hero Editor, 3 spells make up a level:

[msw188]

Well, I can't tell what you're asking in your post. Have you played FF1? Instead of costing MP, FF1 spells are arranged by row (three spells in each of eight rows), where each row can be used some number of times. The number of times each row is allowed depends on the level of the hero - there is a chart showing it somewhere, but I can't remember where.

In my opinion it is a pretty silly system for spells, and Square obviously thought so as well (as far as I know they never did anything similar again). If you are going to use the system, you need to be very conscious of what slot you assign your hero's spells into (all that matters is what row they end up, actually).

Oh, and to make it clear, there is no such thing as FF1 style spells for enemies.
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[Moogle1]

[Spoon Weaver]

It's also the system most pencil and paper Rpg games use. like D&D.

[cavemanerick]

Calehay you mentioned i can control these with plotscripting can you show me an example of how to make as many points for spending appear as i want.

I may be able to use it in my game alot this way if its posible if not i might jus use mp but i'd rather this way. thanks for all your explainations guys.

[Spoon Weaver]

O, I started a thread about that about a month ago.
Changing the level gain of FF1 style spells?
The scripts in this thread may be of use.


EDIT: Here's one that changes amount of spells a character restores when healing at an inn, or whenever you run it.

[cavemanerick]

well thanks man you guys have been a great help with my games devlopment. I think i'll set up my game where the hero can do the spell maybe 20 times at first but with each level it increases and at inns it restores as if hes tired sorta. Its still in the works but you guys have beeen a great help and i appreciate it.

Also since you've been a great help all of you i'll mention you in the credits as a whole something like and thanks for all the great help from castle paradox's fourm members.

[cavemanerick]

k need little help again man this is getting annoying i'm sure for you guys.

K well i came up with my own script for what i need the FF1 spells magic pool but i have 2 things i want to change but have no idea how to.

First i'd like to hide the experience pool in the status part of the menu.

Also i can't for some reason get the 1st and third part of the pool to add 1000 to it like i want what am i missing in this script because i don't fully understand the way it works.

[Spoon Weaver]

well, first I'd like to ask why you went with 1000 points. It seems like if you have that many that you might as well have an infinite number which would solve both the hiding problem (since you wouldn't need FF1 spells and thus not having them would make them not show up.) and it would solve the scripting problem ( because you could just set the attacks slot to MP based and make all the attacks cost 0 MP [or something])

BUT if you're really dead set on 1002 moves for each level then I guess there is a problem. First, The 1st and 3rd slot problem could have something to do with the fact that you went over the number of slots that exist.

[cavemanerick]

Well the reason i wanted 1000 is because i wanted to put an easteregg in, but i dont' know if i'm using FF1 spells now.

The reason i was using FF1 spells and Magic is so that when you fight instead of it just coming up as magic or spells it has two categories Spells and Melee this is how i'm setting up my game.

But apprently you can set up spells on other lists with no Mp usage which i thought might have been able to do so, i'll do that now i guess.

I thought it might work that way but then i wanted to put an easter egg in my game where if you got the FF1 magic pool to 0 a textbox would come up and say you have no life you seriously got this or something like that.

But then again this gave me some more pratice with plotscripting so its cool and i'll just put something cooler as an easteregg in later i think instead just thought it would of been unqie to do both styles of spells.

Thanks for the help again.

[msw188]

Just in case anyone is interested, it is currently impossible to hide the levelMP data (or any other default stats) in the normal status menu. There's a feature request on this in Bugzilla, I'm pretty sure.
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www.euphonicbrew.com

[NeoSpade]

Maybe you could use a custom menu and variables to hide this, or use tags on a custom menu, so say;

[msw188]

I'm not sure I follow the Bard, because I was mostly was getting from Caveman that he was worried about hiding various data (the levelMP and the EXP needed). You could do this with a custom stat menu and still be able to use the normal spell menu, I think. Or does it show your levelMP in the spell menu as well?

All that said, if you'd like help making a custom stat menu (allowing you to hide whatever stats you want), we can probably help; it shouldn't be too confusing. On the other hand, if you want to make a custom spell menu like Neospade is suggesting, that is a much worse task, as he himself has already explained to some extent.
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http://castleparadox.com/gamelist-display.php?game=161

This website link is for my funk/rock band, Euphonic Brew:
www.euphonicbrew.com

[TMC]

Hmm, strange bug with setting the level MP to 1002. Trying to set invalid levels is ignored, so that shouldn't be the problem. Must remember to take a look.
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