Castle Paradox

Arwym

I have a Macbook, and am using the Mac OS X version of the editor. Everything was great, until I attempted to switch layers in the map editor. There I found out I had to use the "pg up"/"pg down" keys to do so. Thing is, there are no such keys in Macs; what we do have to emulate that behavior is the "Fn + up arrow" / "Fn + down arrow" combinations. These, however, do not work in the editor. And I can't find any other way to switch layers, so my map editing is therefore limited to layer 0. This really sucks. Sad...

... Unless I am missing something, which is why I post here. And if there was no solution at this time, I really would like to see it happen at some point, because I really want to make games with OHRRPGCE. The thing is, I am not getting back to Windows. I could use Linux, but still, many portable computers nowadays lack this key. So what to we do? My suggestion is, support the use of the Fn + arrow key combinations to support those computers that lack those keys.

Thank in advance.
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TMC · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:13 pm Post subject:

My netbook doesn't have page up and page down keys either (which is HORRIBLE!), however those are mapped to Fn+Up/Down, which work fine for me. It's very strange that they shouldn't work on your MacBook. I'm interested to hear what inputtest.rpg reveals. Do you have to use Fn to access any other keys (the numpad, I imagine), and if so, do they work?

I've searched around and haven't seen mention of it being a bug in SDL.

You're the second person recently to complain about there being no alternative to pgup/down for switching between map layers. I think we should add an alternative, and maybe even a general way to remap keys.
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Arwym · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:23 pm Post subject:

Thank you both for the detailed responses. I truly appreciate it. Happy

Now, this is strange. Inputtest.rpg recognizes my Fn + Up / Fn + Down as Pg Up / Pg Down without problems! I have no idea what's going on, then.

But I definitely tried other combinations in the map editor and none of them worked. I still cannot switch to other tile layers.

Also, I don't have an external keyboard at my reach, but if I can come near one during these days, I'll give it a try.
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TMC · Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:06 am Post subject:

Do page up and page down work everywhere else in Custom? Also, in inputtest.rpg, when you press fn+up, does the key remain lit (and turn red after a second)

James has added alternatives to page up/down in the map editor, but I'll have to recompile the Mac version, sometime next week (gosh, I haven't compiled a single Mac WIP build since the last release!).
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Arwym · Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:43 pm Post subject:

TMC · Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject:

They work everywhere? Hmm...

Do you realise that you have to add new layers to a map manually in the Layers and Tilesets menu since by default a map only has one layer? (If so, don't feel bad. It seems that more people are confused by map layers and the layers menu in particular than anything else. I admit that that menu is my fault. Also we really need a full and up to date HOWTO article on layers)
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Arwym · Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject:

TMC · Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject:

Maps used to have 3 layers by default (even maps that already existed in old games) but then I caused I whole lot of confusion by making the number of layers variable, and defaulting to just one.

I've now added a message when you try to change layers when there is only one.
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