Castle Paradox

Lucier · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:20 pm Post subject: For future reference

I was wondering, what are some original features in RPGs that you guys have really enjoyed? Be specific, I'm looking for some inspiration for Genesis and any other games I decide to make.
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Aethereal · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:28 pm Post subject:

Two words: Original gameplay.

But seriously, more than anything, I look for original gameplay. If a game plays like another, then I generally don't enjoy it as much. For example, my first experience with an active battle system (where you have free movement/attack with buttons but the battles ARE random, i.e. not an action RPG) was Tales of Destiny on the PSX, and after that I played Star Ocean 2, and I didn't enjoy SO2 as much because I didn't find the battles as exciting as they were the first time around in ToD (there are other reasons why I don't really like SO2 a whole lot, but I won't go into them, as then I'll be getting off-subject).

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JSH357 · Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1705

Hmm..
I'm designing a game right now that uses the following innovations.
I realize that they aren't all that original, but they work very well
with the type of game that I'm making. These are probably my favorite
RPG system-type thingies.

Job System(FFIIIj/FFV/FFT/TO/etc.)
The concept is that you can have characters change their abilities
and become better at certain abilities by using them. This is used
in several different methods, but my personal favorite is the method
used by the mentioned games.

Alchemy(FFV/Secret of Evermore)
Combining items to use spells is genius. I wish that this kind of
thing would pop up more often. Unfortunately, there isn't really an
easy way to emulate it on the OHR's standard battle system, although
I have a method I use that's fairly similar.

Stat Progression(TO/FFT/FFIIj[Despite my hate for that game])
How you level up determines how your stat parameters grow. Doesn't
get very much more simple than that...

(Not in Qpi^e)
Interactive Battles (Tales series, Seiken Densetsu series)
Basically, it's an RPG where you control your character like in a
fighting game. You may also have support characters with AI. Not
easy to do with the OHR, though.

madhatter · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:08 pm Post subject:

Remeber in FFVI the parts where you split up your parties and got to choose what scenario you wanted to do next (rescuing Celes, doing the Train level, and...um... I forgot what Terra did but you probably remember)? Those are really enjoyable.

Another thing that I like is a swap thingy. My brother wrote a script (it's still buggy) where you aquire certain mystery items in one game and use them in another game to do something special. Examples of games that used this are Oracle of Ages and Oracle of Seasons.

planethunter · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:09 pm Post subject:

Although I 've had the idea(s) with me for ages now, and discussed it a while back I still haven't seen it implemented:

8 directional walking, using the standard ohr controls 8,6,4,2 on the numpad for the 90 degree directions (just normal walking) and the others namely 9,7,3,1 on the numpad for the 45 degree directions (think of any decent isometric game). heck, 5 on the numpad could even be a 'run' key.

alternative outfits I know it might not seem that important, but I know from experience that most rpgs divide their adventures events into either 'days' (events from storyline) , or time of day (a set time limit for each day) or plain old inn (when a hero has to sleep and replenish hp). It would be good if the main character changed clothes during these intervals. That way it would also make the game slightly more interesting if an outfit was selected at random from a half dozen or more during each 'event'.
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Minnek · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:16 pm Post subject:

Intriguing idea with the clothing, Planethunter. I'm with Madhatter here, I liked the party-splitting parts of FF6, since you had multiple things going on in the story at once. For some reason, I find that very interesting and fun. Interaction with your environment would be cool, like in FF:Mystic Quest, with the weapons usable as tools to push switches and what not. Jumping is interesting as well, since technically you could jump over those three pixel wide gaps, but for some unknown reason, you have to go around and face (usually) some sort of battle along the way. So jumping'd be rather realistic (or at least I think so.) Having an original magic system grabs me a lot. (FF7 has a great one, in my opinion. I like messing with the materia

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Setu_Firestorm · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:31 pm Post subject:

That reminds me, Aeth. I'm going to have to talk to you later about what to do with the gameplay in Hoshima.

Maybe we can formulate some interesting stuff. Wink

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madhatter · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:48 pm Post subject:

Oh! I thought of another one. I don't know if this is possible to do in the OHR, but what the hey...

In FFV, there was moving bookcases in the ancient library. Perhaps you could implement some sort of maze with moving walls?

Setu_Firestorm · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:49 pm Post subject:

You could simulate that with invisible NPCs, you know.
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Minnek · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:55 pm Post subject:

That'd be really spiffy if someone did that. Perhaps I'll work on it myself... Anyone done that before?
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madhatter · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 5:03 pm Post subject:

Oh! I just thought of yet another thing. Many people don't bother to implement weather in their games, so include that. It adds to the atmosphere.

Shadowiii · **It's been real.** Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 2460

I really liked the change weapons idea. Its being implimented into Lacrymosa, except with much greater detail (you'll see).

I also like Vampires and Blind Heroes. But that's just me.
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Me · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:51 pm Post subject:

Vampire heros are good, but you have to make sure they are harmed by cure (cure elemental, everyone absorbs it except the vamp).
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Uncommon · Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 9:43 am Post subject:

People have mentioned weather and alternate costumes, and those are a couple of things I'm working on...

How about different currencies for different countries? I'm working on that one, too... Custom weapons systems are usually pretty interesting, too.

Lucier · Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:56 pm Post subject:

I'm digging a lot of these ideas. Although pretty much all of them would be difficult to do in the OHR, I think it could be well worth it. Keep the ideas coming!
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