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Eggie
Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 904
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:38 pm Post subject: Eggie's next drawing of Lance... |
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This is my latest. I realized after I was done this drawing that the head is out of place. Just so you know. Constructive criticism is much appreciated, anything else will be not looked upon. Well, except compliments. I took 40 minutes to make this. Yeah, I know, I am a bad person. |
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Flamer The last guy on earth...

Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 725 Location: New Zealand (newly discovered)
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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strange, i can't seem to get his left foot to display... i've loaded it a few times and it still won't display... try re-uploading this image...
the shading is good, shows that this guy is meant to be somewhat real, than cartoon. but the shirt and pants is too...perfect...like there's not a crease in the shirt (ironed the shirt onto his body )
i suggest a bit of texture and a few creases here and there.
looks like he's crying, and pissed off. the emotion only shows in the face though... the body doesn't express the same emotion. but this is just me talking rubbish, coz i can't explain this part at all.
(if you see what i mean, you'll understand)
hands need a bit of a touch up, but i'm not one for hands either. your hands can improve with joints and a slightly bigger palm. it's not bad for a hand, but it's not good either. (i'm sitting on the fence in this one)
i'm guessing that's a fireball... add a bit more sharp edges onto the ends of the embers, coz it's too rounded on the edges and kinda says that it's a slimeball. (could be a slimeball, i don't know... )
the gun looks flat compared to the rest of the drawing (the bottom of the barrel was the only exception here) i dunno... i don't like guns, so i'll just leave it at that... but it does look flat.
all in all, the drawing it rather good. it has a few good points to it that makes it stand out. _________________ If we were a pack of dogs, IM would be a grand Hound, CN would be a very ficious little pitball, and Giz...well, it doesn't matter breed he is, he'd still be a bitch
(no offense to anyone that was mentioned) |
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Eggie
Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 904
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I think that folding is my biggest weakness. I looked at that one Dragon Ball guy's art, but that never really helped. Maybe I should glance again, or glance at something better (or worse). |
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Uncommon His legend will never die

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2503
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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He looks a tad unbalanced. If his left leg were a bit further back... |
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Eggie
Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 904
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I looked at that earlier and thought to myself, "Now that just looks f*cked up, but I can't see why..."
Anyway, this was an earlier version of Lance / Eggie. He casted 'Haste' on himself, so he has that funky aura beneath him.
This is my latest.
This is what I draw when I am really excited and hyper. Me with glasses and a lance.
This is me drawing my friend into a werelion-thing. For some random reason I made her a slut. I have another version I'll get to you soon.
Yeah, I know. I have two other drawings than Lance / Eggie. Sue me.
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Wait don't please. I have no money! Well actually that's not true... |
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Flamer The last guy on earth...

Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 725 Location: New Zealand (newly discovered)
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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one thing i keep noticing with your drawings, is that they're very squared.
umm...
uhh...
...try drawing circles lightly to represent their arms and body, then draw over those circles.
a smooth drawing, is one that is easier to look at. the latest drawing of Lance looks much better than the lance in the first post. but he has very long legs and a squared body. i meant squared like, he seems to have no stomach or abs.
even the most skinniest of guys show a small belly or small abs.
you've improved yet again, don't stop improving. Everyone has the ability to improve, just keep at it  _________________ If we were a pack of dogs, IM would be a grand Hound, CN would be a very ficious little pitball, and Giz...well, it doesn't matter breed he is, he'd still be a bitch
(no offense to anyone that was mentioned) |
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Eggie
Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 904
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:37 am Post subject: |
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For sha...
Yeah, I do draw circles as limbs, but I connect this funny. |
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Shadowiii It's been real.

Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 2460
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:24 am Post subject: |
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They all seem to be missing their foreheads. _________________ But enough talk, have at you! |
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Eggie
Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 904
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:29 am Post subject: |
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The reason why that is would be because I make the eyes quite large for he outlay of the face and put them near the top. Thing is that'll never change because it's the only thing that I keep that is original to my past work, the way it started. |
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Iblis Ghost Cat

Joined: 26 May 2003 Posts: 1233 Location: Your brain
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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First Lance drawing: His hair is too flat on top for how spikey it is on the sides. The gun doesn't look quite like a real gun, but I'm not sure exactly what need to be fixed. You should probably google images of guns and draw from those.
Second Lance drawing: Attempts at clothing folds are a good start, but they need work. I know from experience that these are pretty damn hard to draw, so don't expect it to look very good for a while. Also his hair doesn't go high enough for how big his skull should be.
Third Lance Drawing: Much better. The hair isn't so flat looking. The gun looks better also but still kinda looks like a toy or something. His legs are maybe a little too long.
Guy with a spear drawing: He needs a higher forhead and taller hair. Otherwise his skull would be a little too small and weirdly shaped. The text around him is stupid and makes me hate looking at the picture.
Cat slut: This is the worst of them. The ears are too small and flat, for one. The mouth is too big. The head isn't shaped right (you can get away with using ovals for human heads, to a degree, but not furry heads). The body also appears to be just an oval. Also, remember that the tail is an extension of the spine. It shouldn't stick straight out from the back.
What you need to do is focus on the characters themselves. Don't waste your time drawing these guns and auras and other crap. Nobody will care about that stuff unless your characters look good.
Quote: | Thing is that'll never change because it's the only thing that I keep that is original to my past work, the way it started. |
"Because I've always done it that way" isn't a good reason. There's nothing wrong with changing your style, or just trying different ones, and I would actually encourage it. Drawing in a few different styles can really help your art improve. |
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The Drizzle Who is the Drizzle?

Joined: 12 Nov 2003 Posts: 432
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Cat slut: This is the worst of them. The ears are too small and flat, for one. The mouth is too big. The head isn't shaped right (you can get away with using ovals for human heads, to a degree, but not furry heads). The body also appears to be just an oval. Also, remember that the tail is an extension of the spine. It shouldn't stick straight out from the back. |
Originally, I disagreed with almost every claim made in this commentary here, but let me explain first. I think it is far more important to draw according to your own style than to draw according to other people's. Drawing ovals for heads is clearly a part of your own style, and that something I appreciate. However, I must agree with Iblis based on this: the character your working with is not an original character. It is not a creation within your own imagination, but rather a common image in animation, specifically japanese animation. So if you so choose to work with the products of other people's imaginations, then you must work within their guidlines. Your work cannot then defy convention.
To be honest, and I don't mean to offend you at all, but I find your fascination with "furries" to be just plain wrong. I'm sure that you could come up with something that is not only more original, but more interesting than a human with bestial qualities. It's easy to fall prey to anime/fantasy cliches, which isn't necessarily bad, if you could provide some means of making it your own. This process of making something
"your own" is perhaps what makes art, since all artists work in the business of transforming familiar images, whether they acknowledge this or not, this is a conscious or subconscious process.
My point is, by all means follow your own style. Though I don't think you've quite discovered a style of your own quite yet. Right now, your artistic process seems more focused on mimicking other artists' form, which is a very useful exercise that we all do constantly. Your style has anime qualities but is not quite anime-- this is good. However, it is important to stray from these norms from time to time as well. You should not let yourself be bound by the other artists' styles in the development of your own.
Basically this: Don't be afraid to let your art be influenced, but don't let your art be ruled by influence. _________________ My name is...
The shake-zula, the mic rulah, the old schoola, you wanna trip? I'll bring it to yah... |
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LeRoy_Leo Project manager Class S Minstrel

Joined: 24 Sep 2003 Posts: 2683 Location: The dead-center of your brain!
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:36 am Post subject: |
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The very first post with Lance's first picture... I can actually see depth! I am liberated! Great work, Egg!
Sorry. I freak out when I see good fundamentals... Like with hands. _________________ Planning Project Blood Summons, an MMORPG which will incinerate all of the others with it's sheer brilliance...
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"Seriously James, you keep rolling out the awesome like gingerbread men on a horror-movie assembly line. " |
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