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JSH357

Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1705
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:33 pm Post subject: Attn: Junahu |
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Kindly remove my art, despite its lack of aesthetic wonder, from your game (Which I couldn't figure out how to play for the life of me).
Incase you don't know which game I made, it was "OMFG TIZ ROXORZ TOO MUCH!"
P.S: I immensely dislike people who rip things out of other people's games without asking, so this is a warning.
P.S.S.: Everyone should check the game out and see if their work is in it unwillingly as well. A lot of terrible game contest game images are in the game. |
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RedMaverickZero Three pointed, red disaster! Halloween 2006 Creativity Winner


Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 1459
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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This is the 2nd game where Mr.Triangle has been placed without permission. The only difference between this one and the one in the Mario game is that someone took the deceny to put my name in the credits. Still, ask first junahu. _________________ ---------------Projects----
Mr.Triangle's Maze: 70%
Takoyaki Surprise: 70% |
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junahu Custom Title: 45 character limit

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 369 Location: Hull, England
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:43 am Post subject: |
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I'm sorry for not asking first. I should of postponed the release of the game until I had gained permission from everyone. I shall dispose of the offending art in the harshest manner possible. And sorry RMZ, and everyone else. I shall now penalise myself for my gross incompetence.
sorry _________________
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RedMaverickZero Three pointed, red disaster! Halloween 2006 Creativity Winner


Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 1459
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Don't go penalize yourself dude. You made one bad decision and that was not asking. And change your signature because the game doesn't offend anyone or require you sympathies. Because it's a real good game. So fix what we ask because we've made a ton of gams and know from experience what to do. And JSH is just picky, heh. So scratch his game out of the terrible game part and you're still good for the game. _________________ ---------------Projects----
Mr.Triangle's Maze: 70%
Takoyaki Surprise: 70% |
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LeRoy_Leo Project manager Class S Minstrel

Joined: 24 Sep 2003 Posts: 2683 Location: The dead-center of your brain!
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Meh.
TipWhip is in there, but it is alright. As long as he keeps winning.
Yea. Don't beat yourself up, man. Just don't get carried away with your game.
Prolly just trying to gain popularity off of other's work. It has a lot to do with admiration, and people SHOULD be flattered, but unfortunately we don't all think that way. I think that may be why you used other people's themes.
PS: It pisses me off that people aren't flattered. NONETHELESS, it doesn't hurt to ask. Not everybody is strong. Some are weak little shells. Heh. Heh. Heh. If you take offence to that (whoever) then you only proove my point. Good luck in the future, Jun. _________________ Planning Project Blood Summons, an MMORPG which will incinerate all of the others with it's sheer brilliance...
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"Seriously James, you keep rolling out the awesome like gingerbread men on a horror-movie assembly line. " |
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JSH357

Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1705
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Prolly just trying to gain popularity off of other's work. It has a lot to do with admiration, and people SHOULD be flattered, but unfortunately we don't all think that way. I think that may be why you used other people's themes.
PS: It pisses me off that people aren't flattered. NONETHELESS, it doesn't hurt to ask. Not everybody is strong. Some are weak little shells. Heh. Heh. Heh. If you take offence to that (whoever) then you only proove my point. Good luck in the future, Jun.
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Ok, Leroy. How exactly would one find it flattering that somebody took something that belongs to them- without permission- and used it for their own merit? Are you just a communist or are you just retarded? I don't mean to be ugly here, but I'm really starting to wonder.
This is comparing a nick to a stab here, but imagine someone walked into your room and raped you, then asked you if it was ok to have sex with you? There's no justification in involving a second party in things against his or her will, and you're a weakling for saying that it's ok. I hope you get walked all over when you start middle school.
I am willing to forgive Junahu since she's actually going to remove the image, though. It isn't a terribly huge deal, but it could have been a bigger one if she took an image from a game I cared more about. |
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Uncommon His legend will never die

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2503
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Myself, I was going to let you off with a warning for not asking, but looking at it, I would rather you remove or change the pic from PAIN AND SUFFERING.
The thing is, you totally misrepresented the game. It WASN'T about a phsycopath going on a killing spree. If you didn't notice, it is IMPOSSIBLE for Nealon to kill ANY ONE ENEMY IN THE GAME.
This wasn't presented too well, since the game WAS meant to be TERRIBLE, but it was actually about a Mytonian heretic who was freed by the Angel of Dreams and charged with ousting a corrupt order of paladins and forming a new one.
Please remedy the picture. Especially those ugly bars. They're terrible. |
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SDHawk Silent One
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 80
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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http://sdhawk.castleparadox.com/junk/fanart.gif
This roughly sums up my opinion on this. No, I'm not saying the author has no right to have people remove their work from other's if they don't want it there, it is the author's and they have the right to do so. But in most cases, it's just being a jerk.
I wouldn't say this if, say, Junahu here ripped all the art and made a game with it and never asked JSH for permission. Or if he was selling this for profit, using the author's works as selling points.
But that's not the case here, the case here is MUCH closer to fan art, by throwing in a reference to it in his game (and other OHR people's) in his for fun and partly as a nod to it. Much like Shadowiii putting in DDR in OHR date (I'm assuming it's in there, I never played it far enough to see it) because he liked it well enough to reference it in his game.
If you have any intention of doing games (or about any art) as a job, you're going to need to deal with fans doing crappy renditions (or any renditions!) of your work. Unless you plan on sueing the pants off every fanart you see or sorting through 1000's of pieces for your permission, which would likley result in alienating your entire fanbase for being a jerk to them for liking your work.
Yes, go ahead, have Junahu remove your work, it's your right to do so as the creator. (Although I could've sworn JSH's game was made entirley of badly ripped and imported art, hm? Perhaps it was original and made to mimic it, however, so I won't say anything there.)
But you're being a jerk to a fan for liking your work. |
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JSH357

Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1705
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 6:35 am Post subject: |
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SDHawk, there's a huge difference between parody and a complete rip without permission. The problem in this case is that the graphics are directly ripped out of my game and not altered. There isn't a reason in the game for them to be altered, so I can understand why they aren't, but the fact remains that I wasn't asked permission and that disturbs me somewhat. By uploading a game to CP, I automatically waiver rights for reviewers to use screenshots, but that doesn't say anything about waivering rights for game designers to use my graphics in their own games. An yes, OMFGTIZROXORZ2 did use mostly converted images, but they were edited by myself to look as badly converted as possible. I don't actually care as much about this as I'm letting on, but it still makes me feel uneasy.
And in either case, something makes me doubt anyone could be a fan of one of my games in the first place, so your comic doesn't make very much sense. |
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LeRoy_Leo Project manager Class S Minstrel

Joined: 24 Sep 2003 Posts: 2683 Location: The dead-center of your brain!
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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This is a rhetorical thought, and you may not understand it, I can simpathize with that...
Call me crazy, but didn't everyone on Earth technically rip the works of any said intelligent race somewhere else in the universe. Think of it. We are most definitely NOT alone. So, in summation, there are other intelligent life forms. I am sure they created an identical thing somewhere out there. There is nothing you can do about that. What if they found a their way here and put YOU to death for stealing an idea of THIER'S. Then how would you feel?
Yea... Answer the question as a hypothetical one. IF it was so, THEN what?
Not "God, Leroy! You are an imbisil who can't spell, makes horrible games, and are a worthless bastard!" Be mature about this.
PS: we all have agreed that he should ask permission. Did we not?
That should be a poll.
PPS: banning me for this would be the most retarded and immature thing ever recorded. Thank you. _________________ Planning Project Blood Summons, an MMORPG which will incinerate all of the others with it's sheer brilliance...
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"Seriously James, you keep rolling out the awesome like gingerbread men on a horror-movie assembly line. " |
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JSH357

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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Something tells me that evolving from monkeys would interfere with gaining any kind of prior knowledge from alien beings. Also, it's highly unlikely that any alien races have developed superior technology to our own, and even more unlikely that an intelligent alien race even exists.
That has absolutely nothing to do with art, though; and if you don't take pride in the fact that we can create our own original works, you are a fool. It doesn't matter if, by a trillion to one chance, some random alien could have created the exact same thing; the point is that a man(or woman) can take pride in his creations. Random chance is irrelevant.
And because one should take said pride in his creations, he should indeed be angered if the creations are stolen from him. |
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Machu Righter, a person who rights wrongs

Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 737
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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As JSH just said, there's a clear difference between ripping and coincidence.
So yeah, ask first, make fanstuff later. _________________
Code: | [*]That's it
[*]I'm done reasoning with you
[*]Starting now, there's going to be a lot less conversation and a lot more killing |
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The Wobbler

Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 2221
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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RedMaverickZero Three pointed, red disaster! Halloween 2006 Creativity Winner


Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 1459
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with PHC. The fact that one of my characters was in the game made it very much more enjoyable. Perphaps make it longer, ask for permission from popular OHR games and then go from there to make even more backdrops. But still, ADD A STORY!  _________________ ---------------Projects----
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Fenrir-Lunaris WUT

Joined: 03 Feb 2003 Posts: 1747
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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As an aside, the Mr. Triangle backdrop somehow reminded me of the poster for "Running Man". |
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