Castle Paradox

Rolling Stone · **Bastard Gunslinger** Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 494

Okay if this game doesn't get a review within the next few days, I don't see a reason to keep posting my games on this site. I'm working on a sequel to the game for my own sake, I post my games here to get feedback and intelligent discussion on my games and other people's games. I get neither. Somebody prove to me that Castle Paradox has an excuse to exist or I'm leaving.
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The Wobbler · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 2221

Chaos Nyte · Reviewer Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 511 Location: Hirakata

Gilbert, no reviews for your game are in the review waiting box. But PHC, I just put your review up. There was some weird error in the review list that said your review was for a deleted game, and couldn't be accessed. When I checked today it let me check it over and accept it.

See, this is one of the problems of IM's little joke, we've had nearly no reviews for the better part of a month because everyone thought the site was going down. Hopefully they'll pick back up soon.

Rolling Stone · **Bastard Gunslinger** Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 494

Oy. It's not that I'm bitter, it's just that what good is an OHR site if everyone ignores the OHR related content on it?
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Iblis · Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 9:25 am Post subject:

Reviewing seems to be broken, as we now have yet another review that was combined with a Janken-Janken review and does not appear on the new review list.

More on topic, I still need to play Transylvania, so I may do that soon and try reviewing it.
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The Wobbler · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 2221

Rinku · Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 690

i dislike the idea that reviews have to be officially approved. why can't each game just have its own message thread, and anyone can post whatever they want to it, and that as a whole is its review?
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Rolling Stone · **Bastard Gunslinger** Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 494

My big problem is that hardly anybody on CP is really an OHRer anymore. If CP wants to drop the OHR content, fine, but doing it half assed is just guaranteeing disappointment. Perhaps we should just post new game releases on the OHR Community LJ and have people post reviews in the comments?
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Rinku · Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 690

the lj ohr community has about 10x fewer memebers than cp does. of course, those that are serious about the ohr tend to also belong to the ohrrpgce lj community, so maybe that 10x fewer fact doesn't matter. but it is harder to browse lj archives than a review list.

anyway, just give it time. you can't expect everyone to jump to play a new release the week it's released. people have their own busy schedules. even i, who love all great free games, waited a month or two after orchard-l recommnded cave story to me before playing it. also, i'm really really really looking forward to soj2, but my time schedule is such that when soj2 is released, i probably won't play it as soon as i download it, but put it hold for some time until i get ahead on my zfrt schedule.

let me tell you another related story. there was once (still is?) an ohr user named monheart. he released a game called the cat's meow, or somesuch name. it was a pretty good game, possibly the best game of the season it was released in. but he released it, and then got crazily upset that no one was playing it or talking about it. he did in fact get a few complementary comments, but he felt *betrayed* that people weren't dancing in the streets about his new game, and that the community wasn't radically changed by it but just seemed to be going on much as it had before.

so i think people tend to have too high expectations about the feedback their game will get, and how fast they'll get it. games do get feedback, but they require time to sink in and get an audience. even and& had nothing good said about it in the entire first year of its release except by a couple of my friends who would play anything i make anyway. it was only until a few years later that people started calling it their favorite game, or the perfect ohr game, and one person said it was the game that caused him to want to make ohr games.

the bottom line is: great games will get respect. they just won't get immediate respect: it may take a few years, or even longer. and they don't get dancing in the streets praising the creator to high heavens while dressing up as characters in it respect, except from crazies (and who wants that?).

think of how many world-famous works of art were only published post-humously.
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Camdog · Joined: 08 Aug 2003 Posts: 606

Why would anyone not active with the OHR be on CP anyway? I still feel like the vast majority of the discussion in OHR related. I just think we're in the downswing of a cycle. Things will pick up again, they always do. And I'm playing through Bastard.GUNS Transylvania right now. Just haven't beaten it yet.

While you're waiting for people to play your game, you could, you know, feel free to play through Bliss. Or whatever...

Rinku · Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 690

that's a good point. too many people who complain 'the ohr community doesn't focus on ohr games anymore!' don't themselves play new ohr games that are released; they just assume all the new releases are worthless.
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Rolling Stone · **Bastard Gunslinger** Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 494

Transylvania was released seven or eight months ago! The download count has maybe gone up by three since its initial release and one of those DLs was me getting it for research for the sequel.

I remember that Monheart guy, Cat's Meow wasn't bad. I tend to guess by title whether I should DL a game. Cat's Meow was surrounded by terrible games about cats and dogs and crabs and such, by title alone I assumed CM was another of those until someone said on Zant it was good. MY game on the other hand has Transylvania, guns and a cuss word in the title!

Anyway, like I said, I'm not bitter that nobody's paying attention to me, just that 90% of CP members have never even downloaded the engine. On Operation OHR if you submitted a game for review, you could almost guarantee getting a review. Of course here ALL games are submitted for review, which is kind of retarded, but still, I'd guess the number of reviews per month is lower here.
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Rolling Stone · **Bastard Gunslinger** Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 494

PS, I really liked Bliss, but the review that was already up said everything about it that I wanted to say.
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Camdog · Joined: 08 Aug 2003 Posts: 606

Heh, thanks. I wasn't trying to imply that you were slacking off in the playing games department, I just figured as long as we were talking about playing games, I might as well plug mine since it's fallen off the radar for a while. (Although another positive review could always pad the game's score...)

But, back on topic, is it really true that most people on CP haven't even downloaded the engine? That just strikes me as really weird. What's the point of being here if you don't even play OHR games? Anyone care to comment? What brought you here if not the OHR?

Rolling Stone · **Bastard Gunslinger** Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 494

I assume they join because they have a friend who uses the engine and nothing better to do but clutter up the forum.
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