Castle Paradox

RPGrealm5 · Last edited by RPGrealm5 on Mon Jul 07, 2003 6:35 am; edited 2 times in total

Have have revealed a little bit of my newest project, take a look:
http://gamingetc.topcities.com/preview.htm

Tell me what you think.

Also, I know I spelled fortune wrong in one of the pics.

EDIT: You can try the link again to see my new preview, tell me how this one it.
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Iblis · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 12:21 am Post subject:

Ok, I can't help but notice that the people have green skin, and the maptiles look so good in comparison that I can only assume they are stolen. You will never learn to draw your own maptiles if you steal them. And worrying about them looking bad is silly, everyone needs to start somewhere.

The concept is interesting however.
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Shadowiii · **It's been real.** Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 2460

Those tilemaps look ripped then altered, or maybe I've just played too much Final Fantasy 6. The reason I say this is because the walkaround graphics and the tilemaps are on a totally different graphical level.

The concept of multiple characters and thus multiple point of view is interesting.
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Sew · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 12:31 am Post subject:

Agreed. Ripping is "Teh bad", unless you did make them, which in that case, I would feel a little silly for saying that you stole them. But they do look ripped.

~Sew

Chaos Nyte · Reviewer Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 511 Location: Hirakata

They are stolen. Those maptiles are from Final Fantasy 6.

RPGrealm5 · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 1:57 am Post subject:

You guys need to learn your games! Indeed I did use those graphics, but the game is from Final Fantasy V. The concept of me stealing them, though is a different case. Let me explain my process, some may call it stealing, but to me it is different. I take a snapshot of the thing I want, like grass. I zoom in on it in the paint program, and copy down the sprites and colors. I then open up the OHR and copy down the sprites that I drew on the paper. Then I have the graphics. It's not like I stole those graphics, unless that's what you call it. I was inspired not only by FFV, but FFIV, and Rs2. You are also correct about me altering them from the way I originally copied them into the OHR, like the signs. I changed them.

The reason I didn't do the same for the NPCs is because that is just plain wrong. I said in a previous topic that I want only original people, not liscensed people. It wouldn't be right if I stole Setzer from FFVI and named him Lars! I'm glad I've let that out, please don't choose to pass by my game just because the graphics look like they've been stolen.

Final statement: What makes you think those were from FFVI, Chaos?
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Iblis · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 2:01 am Post subject:

Regardless of how you do it, it still creates a huge ugly disrcrepancy between the quality of the sprites and the quality of the maptiles.
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RPGrealm5 · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 2:05 am Post subject:

It may, but still the gameplay is my main objective here.

Edit: I am getting a negative reaction from you, the opposite of what I thought I would get. Are you suggesting that I discontinue work on this project? Cause if that's the hint I'm still going to proceed with it. I think this is going to be good, just you wait and see.
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Aethereal · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 6:33 am Post subject:

The project has potential, so go through with it. However, I strongly recommend you ditch the ripped (rather, according to you, "inspired") graphics and work on your own maptiles.
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RPGrealm5 · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 6:44 am Post subject:

It's too late to scrap the graphics I already have. Hey, if you don't like the game I have so far then you don't have to play it. If it is COMPLETELY originality, then my Project: Virus would have been your game, but just because Blackened graphics similar to that of another game doesn't mean that that game is total crap. Just give it a chance when the demo is released. But I am interested in knowing why you would want me to scrap them.
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DobyGillis · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 7:43 am Post subject: Hmm...

I fail to see the logic in the justification of your thievery. All you did was elongate the process of jacking graphics expertly crafted by Squaresoft. I mean ripped graphics are weak to begin with, but do yourself a favor and at least save yourself the time of your extra steps. Just so it's not all negative, I do like your ideas for originality in interaction.
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RPGrealm5 · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 8:12 am Post subject:

I've been getting a lot of negative replies today, but at least everyone said that I have potential with my multiple personalities feature. Let me end with an old saying, Don't judge a book by it's cover, or in this case,
Don't judge a game by it's graphics.
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Squall · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 8:16 am Post subject:

Blazes Battles Inc. · **I'm a chimp, not a** Joined: 25 Jan 2003 Posts: 505

If you don't want us to judge a game by its graphics at all then why rip them in the first place? Is that not to make people like it better because of the professional graphics, or to make the game seem more professional itself? And don't complain about getting negative replies, that's annoying. When you post something you can't expect everyone to go completely nuts for everything about, hailing it as a proverbial diamond in the rough. It's just criticism, and it's almost always better to not rip graphics. FFH got away with it because it fit the game expertly. It's a FF1 remake, for crying out loud! As for the idea, it's good, but I'll wait for when it comes out to talk about it. These things tend to get cancelled to the amount of work needed to have three seperate stories, or because of tag limitations. That reminds me.

Does anyone know why there are only 1,000 tags? It's supposed to be due to size limitations, but there's 32,676 (or however many) global variables, which probably hold a lot more information than a simple on/off procedure. It's annoying to run out of tags and have to implement all these map scripts with fake tags and such.
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Aethereal · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 9:53 am Post subject:

The other tags are used for other things, such as one-time usable NPCs (notice that it says "tag 1xyz" after setting an NPC to one-time usable).
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