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Bob the Hamster
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Have you tried the latest nightly WIP build yet?
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Mike Caron
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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By re-importing without re-compiling, you were causing Tirgoviste to be very much confused about the non-existant built-in command number #whatever-keyispressed-is-now, which didn't exist back then. You would have to recompile with a Tirgoviste Hspeak.exe, plus a Tirgoviste plotscr.hsd, to get a proper Tirgoviste-era script.
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Inferior Minion
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Actually, Mike, I believe Mr. B compiled the script via Trigoviste's release, then didn't recompile them in the hasta-la-qb release. Trigoviste was not at all confused about the script and ran exactly as expected. Hasta-la-qb, on the other hand, did not properly run a Trigoviste compiled script. Cube was having similar problems with broken plotscripts in hasta-la-qb, regardless of compiling them via Trigoviste's release and hasta-la-qb's release.
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Mike Caron
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, yes, I see. Well, the obvious thing is that we need to take a look at the menu commands to ensure they are functioning properly.
Edit: I just made a test, and determined that both commands work fine:
| Code: | include, plotscr.hsd
define script(1, menu test, none)
script, menu test, begin
equip menu(0)
status screen(0)
end |
This is in an all-but-blank RPG that I created explicitly to test these commands. I can make the file available, but to do it yourself, you just need one walkabout (to give to a hero and an npc) (optional), and one NPC. Compile the above script, import it, and give it to the NPC. When you run it, and talk to the npc, the equipment menu will show, and when you quit out of that, the status screen will appear immediately.
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TMC
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Hastalaqb should accept plotscripts compiled under any older version. However Tirgoviste ignoring the keyispressed commands is exactly what I would expect of scripts compiled with a Hastalaqb plotscr.hsd, because the code for keyispressed has changed. I think Mr B meant that he didn't recompile the second time he he tried Hastalqb.
I have no idea why those two menus are playing up (I tested and get the same thing), because nobody has changed them directly since before Tirgoviste I believe. The problem does not appear in WIP, which might suggest something like the Hasta-la-qb specific memory optimisations.
| Quote: | | Additionally, the plotdictionary is not updated for the latest version of the OHR -- is there anything I should know? I am interested in what "keyval" does. |
We forgot to rebuild the html version of the plotdictionary! (Hint: maybe rebuilding it in the distrib scripts would be a good idea) Ah well, there is only one new command and maybe some spelling fixes in there. Open plotdict.xml instead.
| Quote: | | Well... it uses just as much accelleration as WhicheverIsLess(Windows, FBGFX library). |
Since everything gets manually copied from one buffer to another pixel by pixel, that counts as 0 acceleration.
| Quote: | | Just to add, keyval is what used to be named "key is pressed". It returns non-zero for "yes, it's pressed", and zero for "no, it isn't". Note that I said "non-zero". It'll return either 1 or 2, depending on whether the key was just pressed, or if it was held down. |
Basically we renamed keyispressed to keyval and added a new keyispressed command.
A new key press is 3 or 2, a key held down is 1, and not pressed is 0.
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Mike Caron
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Aah, you posted while I was ninja-editing! Oh well.
Anyway, yeah, I would suggest trying this script with a nightly, to see if it works then.
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Mr B
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| Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike Caron wrote: | | Code: | include, plotscr.hsd
define script(1, menu test, none)
script, menu test, begin
equip menu(0)
status screen(0)
end |
This is in an all-but-blank RPG that I created explicitly to test these commands. I can make the file available, but to do it yourself, you just need one walkabout (to give to a hero and an npc) (optional), and one NPC. Compile the above script, import it, and give it to the NPC. When you run it, and talk to the npc, the equipment menu will show, and when you quit out of that, the status screen will appear immediately. |
Yep; that's pretty much what I did, only with the script running as the new-game-script, and several "show value(#)" and "wait(#)" commands, just to make certain that the script was, in fact, executing.
Thanks for the help; I am going to download the nightly now (will it form an hasta-la-qb+?). |
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Mike Caron
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| Mr B wrote: | | Thanks for the help; I am going to download the nightly now (will it form an hasta-la-qb+?). |
(the 'h' isn't silent, I don't think.)
No, it's more like Ubersetzung-
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Moogle1
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Uh. I guess you don't speak any Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, French, Romanian, Latin, or anything else Romance? How about the famous "Hasta la vista, baby"? I'm sure you've at least heard of that.
The H is silent.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Moogle1 wrote: | Uh. I guess you don't speak any Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, French, Romanian, Latin, or anything else Romance? How about the famous "Hasta la vista, baby"? I'm sure you've at least heard of that.
The H is silent. |
Actually, in Latin, the H is sounded.
*goes off into corner again*
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Komera
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| hakkun wrote: | | Moogle1 wrote: | Uh. I guess you don't speak any Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, French, Romanian, Latin, or anything else Romance? How about the famous "Hasta la vista, baby"? I'm sure you've at least heard of that.
The H is silent. |
Actually, in Latin, the H is sounded.
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Although Spanish, being one of the Romance languages, comes to us from Latin... "Hasta la vista" is Spanish and not Latin. Thus the "H" is silent. "J" however sounds like "H".
"Hasta la vista, baby," is technically Spanglish.
Not that you guys didn't already know this, of course.
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Moogle1
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Yes, that's true, but I basically assumed that you wouldn't learn Latin without also figuring out that most of its derivative languages make the H silent.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:54 am Post subject: |
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It's something of a rule that if/when a decendant language diverts from the ancestor language, it does it all the way across the board. A b in a word of the ancestor language can wind up as a p, or an f, or a d. Source: Encyclopedia Britanica.
Yeah, I'm one of those freaks who read the encyclopedia for fun.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:07 am Post subject: |
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I have recently experienced a plotscripting problem as well with hasta-la-qb. It seems that the commands to move heroes to and from the party no longer function. I never had a problem with this in earlier versions, but I can't remember the last time I would have 'tested' this, per se. What I mean is that when I use something like 'add hero' or 'swap out hero' in a plotscript, it does not work.
This is compiling, importing and playing with hasta hspeak, custom and game respectively. |
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Bob the Hamster
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| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| msw188 wrote: | I have recently experienced a plotscripting problem as well with hasta-la-qb. It seems that the commands to move heroes to and from the party no longer function. I never had a problem with this in earlier versions, but I can't remember the last time I would have 'tested' this, per se. What I mean is that when I use something like 'add hero' or 'swap out hero' in a plotscript, it does not work.
This is compiling, importing and playing with hasta hspeak, custom and game respectively. |
Can you put this in bugzilla? |
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