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PlayerOne
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| J.A.R.S. wrote: | What is OHR coded in now? I guess it must've changed language to tolerate windows... And since its open source, if its a "basic" language, I might be of some help in this field if help is required  |
It's in FreeBasic, which is essentially a modern open-source cross-platform version of QBasic. |
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TwinHamster
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:30 am Post subject: |
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*Glee*
I wish I knew this was coming so that I wouldn't have to fill up entire maptile sets to reproduce the same pile of rocks on five different terrains.
[edit]Okay, now that I can enable and disable layer visibility...How do I actually edit them?
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J.A.R.S.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| PlayerOne wrote: | | J.A.R.S. wrote: | | What is OHR coded in now? I guess it must've changed language to tolerate windows... And since its open source, if its a "basic" language, I might be of some help in this field if help is required |
It's in FreeBasic, which is essentially a modern open-source cross-platform version of QBasic. |
If it look like Qbasic, I might help  |
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Newbie_Power
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| You need to enable a layer then you press "Page Up" or "Page Down" to switch layers. |
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djfenix
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:09 am Post subject: |
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.... i... love... you.....
Page Up and Page Down changes the layers you're editting. I spent 10 minutes trying to figure that out, heh.
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Ah, crap, you beat me to the explaination |
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Calehay
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:42 am Post subject: |
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*cough*
Well in any cases, considering this isn't anywhere near April Fools, huzzah! Will this be a new feature ready for Uberzetzung?
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Newbie_Power
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| Is there any way to enable default passability for Layer 1? |
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djfenix
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| Now... let's see when we get alpha transparencies........... |
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Mike Caron
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Oops, this is what I get for sleeping at night. Replies in approximately order:
JARS: FreeBasic, which is a modern version of QBasic. Nowadays, it's more like C with a Basic syntax.
JARS again: It was easier than I expected, certainly. However, doing multiple tilesets on one map is going to be more difficult.
Onlyoneinall: Yeah, my bad. I forgot to mention that in whatsnew.txt, and I was just about to commit my work, but then I added the note. However, I forgot to hit save, so the note was left out. :S
Newbie_Power: Default passability should work for all three layers. Keep in mind that there is only one wallmap for the whole map.
djfenix: Not any time soon (though I too would like that).
Also, I'd like to mention that Enabling and Disabling a layer (Alt-F1/2/3, or Enter/Space in the layer menu) is NOT the same thing as changing the visibility of that layer (Ctrl-F1/2/3, Left and Right in the layer menu). Invisible, enabled layers still show up in Game! For editing, however, it's easier to edit a layer if you can turn the other ones off.
That said, disabling a layer does not make it go away forever. The tiles are still there, you just can't see them or edit them, nor will they appear in Game. There is a specific reason for this which may or may not involve dis/enabling layers IN game via plotscripting, but we'll see
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Onlyoneinall
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike Caron wrote: | | That said, disabling a layer does not make it go away forever. The tiles are still there, you just can't see them or edit them, nor will they appear in Game. There is a specific reason for this which may or may not involve dis/enabling layers IN game via plotscripting, but we'll see |
I sense some sweet new happenings brewing for some awesome effects! 
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Newbie_Power
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Newbie_Power: Default passability should work for all three layers. Keep in mind that there is only one wallmap for the whole map. |
That's not the issue. When using "Set Default Passability For Whole Map", it only cares about the tiles in Layer 0 when making the changes. I tested this by having a tile with walls on Layer 0 with a tile without walls on Layer 1. Lo and behold, the normally walkable grass tile now has walls, while trees layered over grass tiles do not. |
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Onlyoneinall
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Newbie_Power wrote: | | Quote: | | Newbie_Power: Default passability should work for all three layers. Keep in mind that there is only one wallmap for the whole map. |
That's not the issue. When using "Set Default Passability For Whole Map", it only cares about the tiles in Layer 0 when making the changes. I tested this by having a tile with walls on Layer 0 with a tile without walls on Layer 1. Lo and behold, the normally walkable grass tile now has walls, while trees layered over grass tiles do not. |
Indeed. This does make the useability of layers a tad more difficult. The engine changes wallmaps, regardless of which layer it is.
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Jack
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I can only imagine what the catastrophe will be this year.
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Bob the Hamster
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: New feature |
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| Mike Caron wrote: | So, I've been hacking away at the OHR again, and I decided to cross off a longstanding item on my TODO list.
Do you dare find out what?!
I think that most will find this a *very* welcome addition to the OHR! |
This is entirely awesome... but for the love of all that is good, please don't check this in before ubersetzung branches!
EDIT: ... oh... you already did... last night.... *sigh* we only had two ubersetzung blockers left. Well I'm not going to back the layers patch out, but I hope it is a good implementation, cause if it ain't, we will be paying for it in backcompat hacks for voxhumana
EDIT AGAIN: Sorry. Didn't mean to come out overly negative there. This is a great feature that we have needed since the dawn of ever. You just really surprized me, that's all.
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