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Meatballsub · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: PLAYING.TMP and BAM2MIDI

I have been wanting to extract some BAMS from older games and put them on my ipod, however I cannot find the PLAYING.TMP folder to save my life. I have checked C:/Windows/Temp, and it is not there. I even tried creating the folder there and it did nothing.

Also, where can I find that BAM2MIDI program? Much appreciated.
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TwinHamster · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:17 am Post subject:

I don't think there is a Playing.tmp any more.
You could try using an older version of the OHR to try again?

In the mean time, I'm pretty sure that you'll have to extract music from working.tmp, which, I"m sure you already know, is created after you start editing a game in Custom.

Bam2midi can probably be found in one of these older release packs:
http://hamsterrepublic.com/ohrrpgce/archive/

Bob the Hamster · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject: Location of playing.tmp

I would just use unlump.exe. That should be much easier.

On Windows 98, you will find Playing.tmp at C:\Windows\temp\YEARDATETIME.RANDOM.tmp\playing.tmp

On Windows XP you will find Playing.tmp at C:\Documents and Settings\Your User Name\Local Settings\Temp\YEARDATETIME.RANDOM.tmp\playing.tmp

I think the Windows Vista location is the same as the Windows XP location, but I am not sure.

On Linux, playing.tmp is located in ~/.ohrrpgce/YEARDATETIME.RANDOM.tmp/playing.tmp

And by YEARDATETIME.RANDOM.tmp I mean something like 20080722161335.894.tmp

Meatballsub · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Location of playing.tmp

Bob the Hamster · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Location of playing.tmp

Meatballsub · Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:46 am Post subject:

Unlump.exe is definitely easier, but doesn't help on those games that are passworded. By the way, I can't seem to find the folder on Vista either. I thought it was in that same folder as in XP, but it is not. I tried searching for it with the game opened, and no luck on that either...
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Bob the Hamster · Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject:

TMC · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:50 am Post subject:

If you want to play them on your iPod what about listening to an accurate recording of the original BAMs? Depending on the song (typically those composed for the BAM format) some sound much better than the MIDI translation.

There are several ways to playback BAMs. You can use BAM to MIDI translation (used by the modern OHRRPGCE), play using (http://adplug.sourceforge.net/) Adplug, or run the original 'playbam' under sound hardware emulation by DOSBOX or VDMSound. I'd would have liked to have pinched some code if it wasn't such a big task.

Adplug (also available as a winamp plugin) produces lots of clicking on some songs (I had some luck removing it by turning down the frequency in the settings). Still, it's nice for playing BAMs (and many many other formats) easily.

Apparently VDMS's emulation is used by DOSBOX. But VDMS uses 44100Hz by default, and DOSBOX uses 22050Hz. This can make a big difference - I'm not sure what's more authentic. But at the same frequency, they sound identical to me. VDMS is probably easier, Both can also copy write waves files to disk.
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Meatballsub · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:23 am Post subject:

How would one go about putting a BAM on an iPod? I've been converting the midis to AAC then importing them, but it would be nice for some of them to sound like the original bams.
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Bob the Hamster · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:38 am Post subject:

FyreWulff · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject:

the only problem i've noticed with the emulation is that the wave insrument (the one you can use to make beach sounds) is never converted directly - it just sounds like a bunch of short bursts of non-abrasive static.

edit: versus the orginal BAM effect of the sound building up over itself like waves

TMC · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:12 am Post subject:

(To Meatballsub:) Try VDMSound on playbam, you can set it to record in the advanced options for a VDMS shortcut to the program. That way, you won't have to trim anything from the beginning, though I guess if it loops, it'll just play forever until you stop it, so you might still need to edit it.

Odd that the waves sound different. It might be fixable by playing around with the settings.
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Bob the Hamster · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:46 am Post subject:

FyreWulff · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject:

I think it might have been, but the bam in Jade that uses it, I composed in PCPiano.