Castle Paradox

Drew Y. · Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6

I want to make a spell that has effects the only last one round. E.G. A "defend" spell that you use, negates an action that turn but increases defense, then on your turn again your defense stat returns to normal. Is it possible or is this not able to be done yet?

Baconlabs · Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject:

There is no such thing as a "round" in the OHRRPGCE, since the battle system is ATB - Active Time Battle.
What you CAN do, however, is this:

-Make your attack that you want to last one round, have the player activate it as an attack, item, spell, etc.
-Make another attack that "ends" the previous attack, i.e. something that returns defense to 100% for a Defend command.
-Chain the "end" attack to the original attack with a 100% chain rate.
-This will require some experimentation. Make the "end" attack activate after a certain amount of time that seems like one "round" has passed. This can be done with a Speed>Seconds>Ticks calculation.
Example: A hero with Speed of 15 takes 3.6 seconds to make an action. There are about 18.2 ticks per second, so make the delayed attack start after 65-66 Ticks.

Does this answer your question?

Drew Y. · Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6

I think so, I'll have to try it. Thanks!

Drew Y. · Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6

Ok, that works for Defend but what if i want a next attack or next spell buffer? is there a way to manipulate tags so that it can go to a end buffer attack after i use an attack or cast a spell?

Baconlabs · Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject:

Drew Y. · Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6

What I mean is that you use a Skill that raises lets say your magic to 150% of your normal. so if your magic is 60, you cast the skill/item and it goes to 90, so come that character's next turn you cast a spell. After the spell is casts your magic is reduced back to its normal of 60. So it is only a one turn use.

Baconlabs · Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:58 pm Post subject:

Drew Y. · Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6

Ok, thanks, maybe that could be some kind of new attack option where it stops effects on hero's next turn or such. Well, thanks anyways.

msw188 · Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 1041

I disagree. I believe that this is quite doable. First off, have the first attack raise the magic by, say, 50%, and turn on that tag. Then every action that uses magic that Bob has is set to chain to an attack that resets magic to 100% of maximum.

The problem is that if you want long-lasting stat buffs in battle, this method will not work. There is somewhat of a workaround if you have an extra stat to spare and are willing to have every 'bufferable' attack be composed of a fairly long chain. Let me know if you want to discuss this instead.

PS: I'm on vacation at the moment, and will only be checking the internet once or maybe twice a day, so it may take time to get a response.
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Drew Y. · Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6

Well, i thought of that, but then ran into the problem you said... also if you want to have a spell with a -50% degrade effect, it would only work for the next spell also.

msw188 · Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 1041

Well, first of all, I realize that I forgot to erase that bit about setting a tag in my last post. Ignore that; Baconlabs is right, tags don't actually help battles at all. They are only used for checking for things after the battle is over right now.

To give a better idea of the workaround, I'll outline the idea. I would manipulate the Aim stat, which is the closest thing we have to an 'if' check in battle. Basically you'd have every 'boostable' attack begin with a self-targeting attack that supplies the boost, but only hits if the aim is high enough. Then the 'boosting' attack actually is affecting the aim of this self-targeting attack at the beginning of the chain. The details are still hazy, and would involve storing the actual Aim in the extra stat.
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Bob the Hamster · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject:

Sounds like I need to work on the 'Plan for stat buffs', which should make this sort of effect much easier.

Ronin Catholic · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:58 pm Post subject:

I've been planning a game where your regular attack chains to set all of your stats back to 100%, making all buffs temporary. This causes a "!Defend" command to raise your Defense until you do a normal attack, a "!Psyche Up" to raise Attack until you do a normal attack, and so on.

If the buffing feature is altered before I start it (which would be after finishing Maces Wild), I won't have to bother with my 6-part chain at all.
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