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				|  Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:46 pm    Post subject: How do the hero batlle sprites work |   |  
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				| I am trying to make a game. I am wondering what each of the slots on the hero battle graphics editor are. Do you define them yourself? |  | 
	
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		| Bob the Hamster OHRRPGCE Developer
 
 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:20 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| No, unfortunately you can't define them yourself. 
 There is a word in the top right that gives you a hint about what each frame is used for.
 
 Here are the frames:
 
 "Standing","Stepping","Attack A","Attack B","Cast/Use","Hurt","Weak","Dead"
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		| Baconlabs PURPLE IS MANLY
 
 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Two tidbits that aren't quite common knowledge: 
 1) The "Attack A" sprite doubles as a victory pose when you win a battle.
 2) The "Dead" sprite will never be seen if you are only going to use one hero.
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				|  Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Huh. I didn't know that. Well, the more you know. 'Cause knowledge is power! 	  | Baconlabs wrote: |  	  | Two tidbits that aren't quite common knowledge: 
 1) The "Attack A" sprite doubles as a victory pose when you win a battle.
 2) The "Dead" sprite will never be seen if you are only going to use one hero.
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		| Bagne ALL YOUR NUDIBRANCH ARE BELONG TO GASTROPODA
 
 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:22 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| You also see the hero walk and attack graphics in shops... 
 When I discovered this I had to change my plans :-S
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		| Bob the Hamster OHRRPGCE Developer
 
 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Bagne wrote: |  	  | You also see the hero walk and attack graphics in shops... 
 When I discovered this I had to change my plans :-S
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 What plans were those?
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		| Bagne ALL YOUR NUDIBRANCH ARE BELONG TO GASTROPODA
 
 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Oh, some of my characters are fairly large, so there was little remaining space to put their arms when they wind up in attack A and swing in attack B - I like to make the graphics as large as possible. I was making them lean back when winding up and lean into their strike in attack B - use their body weight.
 
 I wanted to extend their arms outside the battle graphic using weapon graphics.
 But, I thought that this would look weird in shops - they would just wave their stumps around. Haha.
 
 Anyways, no biggie.  I just changed some graphics so that they fit.  They don't lean now, so there's room - which looks fine anyways.
 
 I just mention this because it's worth knowing that battle graphics can appear outside the battle context.
 
 Hey - in our bright, enlightened future of battle scripting, will be user be able to define their own battle movements?  Like ... dash in, the victory dance, etc.
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		| Bob the Hamster OHRRPGCE Developer
 
 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:58 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Bagne wrote: |  	  | Hey - in our bright, enlightened future of battle scripting, will be user be able to define their own battle movements?  Like ... dash in, the victory dance, etc. | 
 
 Eventually, yes.
 
 Although changing which frames get used for which animations will be customizable without scripting if we implement 'Plan for raising sprite frame limits'
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				|  Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:18 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Bagne wrote: |  	  | Oh, some of my characters are fairly large, so there was little remaining space to put their arms when they wind up in attack A and swing in attack B - I like to make the graphics as large as possible. I was making them lean back when winding up and lean into their strike in attack B - use their body weight.
 
 I wanted to extend their arms outside the battle graphic using weapon graphics.
 But, I thought that this would look weird in shops - they would just wave their stumps around. Haha.
 
 Anyways, no biggie.  I just changed some graphics so that they fit.  They don't lean now, so there's room - which looks fine anyways.
 
 I just mention this because it's worth knowing that battle graphics can appear outside the battle context.
 
 Hey - in our bright, enlightened future of battle scripting, will be user be able to define their own battle movements?  Like ... dash in, the victory dance, etc.
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 Y'know, AdrianX used a script to change the sprites before and after saving, so you could always wrap a script around a shop so that they become say portraits (as in hero graphics that look like portraits) when you enter the shop, then right after exiting, I'm pretty sure it'd look something like this:
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | plotscript,fancy-pantsshopscript,begin suspend player
 suspend NPCs
 set hero picture ((find hero(hero:Bob)),0,insidebattle)
 show text box (1) #which triggers the shop
 wait for text box
 set hero picture ((find hero(hero:Bob)),1,insidebattle)
 resume player
 resume NPCs
 end
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 I'm not sure if you'd need wait for hero, or wait commands after the set hero picture commands or not, but that should allow you to use the current hero battle sprites and have a second set for the shops.
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				|  Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The hero also uses his "Attack A" picture when an ally uses a heal on him (instead of "Hurt") and his "Hurt" graphic when he lands with a "Land" attack (I'm pretty sure). _________________
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