Castle Paradox

[chronoboy]

I find this a very odd "feature", when purchasing something at a shop, and your inventory is full, the merchant takes your money, but fails to give you the merchandise. What's up with that?

After increasing your carrying capacity, the item still doesn't appear as if it were hiding there all along.

Me thinks, Merchants in OHR games are thieves, or perhaps the player should know how much they can carry before purchasing that extra large item.

This also applied any other time the player may receive an additional item, but lacks the room in his/her pockets to store it. The item would just vanish out of the face of the game world. This is especially a big problem, if the item the player is about to receive is a key item needed to beat the game.
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[TMC]

Opps. Stores ought to display a message when that occurs instead of taking the money.

[chronoboy]

Perhaps a new feature for the next stable release?
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[Pumpkinbot]

Not that I know anything about plotscripting, but can't you set it so that if you have x many items in your inventory (when it's full), the shopkeeper doesn't take your money and doesn't give you the item? The only problem with this is if you get a bigger bag. :/

[Bob the Hamster]

[msw188]

This issue of giving the player an option to discard things, and forcing him to when needed, was probably the single hardest part of scripting my items system for Tales 2. Then on top of that, if the player tries to discard something that can't be discarded, he needs that explained to him as well.

For the engine this will mean that items will need a bitset or something to "force player to discard if he has no room". If this happens, I think it would be helpful to get rid of the "cannot be sold/dropped" option for usability, and just have a choice between one-time and unlimited. Then there could be separate bitsets:
"cannot be sold"
"cannot be dropped"
"not consumed by item-cost attacks"

That last one could make it so that certain attacks are available to a hero only if he has an item, although these attacks do not cost him the item.
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[TMC]

[Pumpkinbot]

[Bob the Hamster]

[mswguest]

Precisely as Pumpkinbot described. In this way items could be used like purchasable levels. RunePower, a weak spell, is given a rune cost of 1 (item cost of 1 rune) and so it can be used freely once the player finds one rune. RuneSuperPower, a strong spell, is given a rune cost of 3 (item cost of 3 runes) so it can be used freely once the player finds 3 runes.

HOWEVER the player is certainly allowed to sell and/or drop these runes, because he might rather invest in equipment because it turns out that RuneSuperPower sucks in the Cave of Rune Resistance. Then he could buy back the runes after the cave.

[Moogle1]

You can fake this by giving the items back (chain to an attack with a negative item cost).
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[Ronin Catholic]

[Moogle1]

I defy you to make a chain that fails to end before the battle finishes.

It's possible, but unless you're trying to do it, it won't happen.
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[msw188]

You could just put the item restoring attack before the damaging part of the chain, as long as you're not trying to use stored targets for something else. I'm not sure I agree with Moogle that chains will usually finish before a battle - plenty of my attacks have multiple effects with delays between them however small, and this could easily cause a problem if you don't put the restoring attack first.

Anyway, I agree that all of these ideas are possible as of now, but I still think it would be helpful to have the bitsets, especially since they've already been thinking about some of it for improving items.
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http://castleparadox.com/gamelist-display.php?game=161

This website link is for my funk/rock band, Euphonic Brew:
www.euphonicbrew.com

[TMC]

OK, but that should definitely be accomplished with a setting in the attack data, not a bit on items. Adding tag requirements for attacks sounds like a great idea, and non-deducting costs seems quite reasonable too.
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