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Raekuul
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:54 am    Post subject: GAAAAAH!! Reply with quote

I just had the sudden realization: We have a lot of games with "Dream" in the title.
Autumn Dream,
City of Dreams + Soundtrack,
Crecent Dream + Soundtrack,
DoZ: Sour Dreams,
Dreams of Light and Darkness,
Dreams of the Seven Orbs,
Eternal Dreams,
Illumnis Saga Side Story- Heavenly Dreamers,
Moon Pie: Crumbling Dreams,
Sword of Jade: Parallel Dreams + Parody.

Does anyone else find this odd?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh, I don't think it's really of big concern; I didn't even notice this until you brought it up.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's because it's a generic fantasy word. In very few of these games (if any) will you find that the game has anything to do with dreams.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kingdom Hearts:Master of Dreams

Heres another example Big grin
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It's because it's a generic fantasy word. In very few of these games (if any) will you find that the game has anything to do with dreams.

The KHMOF game dos
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.gamefaqs.com/search/index.html?game=dream

It's not exactly an uncommon name for games.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Little Nemo: The Dream Master

This is why I change Kingdom Hearts:The Dream Master to
Kingdom hearts:Master of Dreams.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember Little Nemo! I used to play that game. Freaky stuff.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also "Destiny", "Eternal", and several others.

The most generic name possible is "Eternal Dreams of Destiny".

There's also a problem with naming movies. I quote from the book "How Not to Write a Screenplay" by DM Flinn:

Generic Titles are very popular these days. But bear in mind that someone else out there is calling his script the same time. In the last few years, I've read a half a dozen spec sheets titled "Clean Sweep," and at least a dozen titled "Dead Wrong." ... Why generic titles are so popular is beyond me, since they neither jump out at you, nor give you an impression of their content, two virtues which advertising experts advise. Yet in a recent visit to a video store, I noticed the shelves groaning with titles like...

Above Suspicion, Above the Law, Beyond Justice, Boiling Point, Code of Silence, Cop, D.O.A, Dead Again, Dead to Rights, Dead Ringers, Dead of Winter, Dead Calm, Deadly Outbreak, Deadly Surveillance, Deep Cover, Extreme Measures, Extreme Justice, Extreme Prejudice, Fair Game, Fatal Error, Fatal Attraction, Hard to Kill, Hard Evidence, Homicide, Lethal Weapon, Magnum Force, Maniac Cop, Marked for Death, Martial Law, Maximum Risk, New York Cop, Out for Justice, Physical Evidence, Serial Killer, Sudden Impact, Sudden Death, Super Cop, Time to Die, Time to Kill, True Crime, Under Investigation, Under Suspicion, Unlawful Entry, etc.


Obviously, if you've got a good game, the game will live up to the title and people will remember the name, but if you're a new chum with a brand new game, do us all a favor and name it something not generic. If I see any more "Adventures of _____ ", I'll start making idle threats at people. At least let the title give you some indication of what the game is about, and if people are interested, they'll download it. (look how many downloads Hentai Quest has)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amen to that.

Topic deviation: And generic titles are only a small portion of a grander problem. I learned that the trick to avoiding certain CLICHÉS was to think of what most people WOULD do, then do something else. Henceforth, a list of known CLICHÉS has been a handy tool. Who here has a list of generic plots and characters they would care to share with us? I'm not sure, but it could put a lot of meaningless banter to rest.

PS: I recall- I think it was Fenrir- someone posting a bunch of generic dungeon descriptions a couple years ago, or so... That was so freaking long ago, though. I'll look for it...

I'ma go play "TheAdventureOfTheQuestingFantasyDreamCrystals" now. ¬¬
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I remember Little Nemo! I used to play that game. Freaky stuff.

I play the game once, it kinda suck but the movie was good and strange.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop right there. This is what we call "going off on a tangent". Try to avoid it.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leroy, there is a site with a list of a LOT of clichés on it.

Presenting "The Grand List of Console RPG Clichés":
http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html

Some of these you read and think "Oh yeah...that IS common in games", heh. Ha ha ha! Or worse, you think "I was going to put that into my own game" Crying.
Was this the site you were looking for? Although it still gives a comprehensive list of what not to do in a game (because it's been overdone Raspberry!).

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Eternal Dreams of Destiny," huh? Reminds me of Shaede's "Dreams of Adventure," but that one was about a kid who dreams of adventure and finds he is really a knight in another dimension.

Personally, I have no problem with generic-sounding names if they are accurate descriptors (as in that case). I also don't care for names that have nothing to do with the game, original though they may be.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The aforementioned mysterious girl will be wearing a pendant that will ultimately prove to be the key to either saving the world or destroying it."

heh heh whoop. Really confused
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